May 16, 2021·1 reply
We Didnt Like ThatIf we go by biggest impact and albums ASTROWORLD put Trav in top 3, whether we like it or not that's what the youth likes
that's just being unbiased and objective.One album doesn't put you in the convo
- May 16, 2021·4 replies
Only one rapper here has been objectively in the top 3 in all three areas
Kendrick
Commercially competitive
Critically competitive
Lyrically competitive. 
May 16, 2021·1 reply
Evgeny Kuznetsovkevin gates in 2021 stop it lol
I can tell you dont drink gatorade Lol
May 16, 2021·1 replyWhippeyOnly one rapper here has been objectively in the top 3 in all three areas
Kendrick
Commercially competitive
Critically competitive
Lyrically competitive.Who asked tho?
- May 16, 2021Whippey
One album doesn't put you in the convo
No but I shouldn't have to remind you how Days Before Rodeo and Rodeo are loved not just by Trav stans either. I don't like him but he's got multiple hit albums under his belt in such a short time
- May 16, 2021dung beetle
I can tell you dont drink gatorade Lol
May 16, 2021
MaartinsYea this post sucks
thanks for saying this. nearly typed a reply to your bullshit
May 16, 2021I understand disagreeing with Cole being there but those of you trying to spin OP’s criteria on him when he specifies mc being a part of it can’t really spin in on him with people that wouldn’t be considered mc’s by most
If you’re gonna spin someone’s argument on them...it kinda has to use their argument
- May 16, 2021·1 replyWe Didnt Like That
If we go by biggest impact and albums ASTROWORLD put Trav in top 3, whether we like it or not that's what the youth likes
that's just being unbiased and objective."If we go by biggest impact"
Which is why I said there's more to a big 3. And Cole has a larger impact on rap than Travis.
- May 16, 2021·2 replies
Im kinda ready for us to get past the big three convo in regard to Drake Kendrick and Cole tho, cus I wanna see who out of the NEW school would be considered top 3.
I know for a FACT if X was alive he'd probably have a spot.
- May 16, 2021Whippey
Only one rapper here has been objectively in the top 3 in all three areas
Kendrick
Commercially competitive
Critically competitive
Lyrically competitive."Objectively" so you going to explain how or just say anything
Drake and Cole both fit those areas too
both have the critical success with Born Sinner, FHD, Take Care, NWTS And If You're Reading ThisDrake got some incredible verses on his none single tracks. Lord Knows, Too Much, You & The 6, Cole got his great verses on both albums and features
And of course all of them have the commercial success
That's "objectively" the whole truth
- May 16, 2021Whippey
Only one rapper here has been objectively in the top 3 in all three areas
Kendrick
Commercially competitive
Critically competitive
Lyrically competitive.Prove it
- May 16, 2021Skateboard J
Im kinda ready for us to get past the big three convo in regard to Drake Kendrick and Cole tho, cus I wanna see who out of the NEW school would be considered top 3.
I know for a FACT if X was alive he'd probably have a spot. Im already past it. I dont even go by top 3 anymore it's dumb. Lil Baby is clearly above everyone else
- May 16, 2021·1 replySaint Aquinas
"If we go by biggest impact"
Which is why I said there's more to a big 3. And Cole has a larger impact on rap than Travis.
Based on what? Trav is obviously a huge brand outside so to make it easy let's just stick with rap. Trav and Mike Dean have definitely effected mainstream hip-hop production far more than Cole and his self produced work. There's more people rapping like Travis (you could also credit Young Thug) than Cole.
Where you seeing the Cole impact?
- May 16, 2021·1 replySkateboard J
Im kinda ready for us to get past the big three convo in regard to Drake Kendrick and Cole tho, cus I wanna see who out of the NEW school would be considered top 3.
I know for a FACT if X was alive he'd probably have a spot. The top 3 surpassed their predecessors so the next 3 must also do the same
it's up to rappers like Lil Baby to put in more work because he's close. We've already seem Trav pass Cole commercially - May 16, 2021·edited·2 repliesWe Didnt Like That
Based on what? Trav is obviously a huge brand outside so to make it easy let's just stick with rap. Trav and Mike Dean have definitely effected mainstream hip-hop production far more than Cole and his self produced work. There's more people rapping like Travis (you could also credit Young Thug) than Cole.
Where you seeing the Cole impact?
Because most travis fans are white. Yeah Astroworld sold more but Cole in 2018 was still talked about in rap circles that year more than travis. No1 really raps like travis in this era and production is a stretch. Cole has a larger impact on rap because his music is centered more on issues hip-hop culture tends to talk about. Be Free is a more talked about record than any Travis song. It did more for rap. Travis is just an artist in rap.
- May 16, 2021·1 replyWe Didnt Like That
The top 3 surpassed their predecessors so the next 3 must also do the same
it's up to rappers like Lil Baby to put in more work because he's close. We've already seem Trav pass Cole commercially Who was top 3 before Drake/Kendrick/Cole
- May 16, 2021Skateboard J
Who was top 3 before Drake/Kendrick/Cole
Wayne, Ye and just like Cole the 3rd spot was depending on who you personally liked. There was an argument for Em, T.I but Drake came in during 09. Remember Kendrick and Cole came later
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Who asked tho?
I did
- May 16, 2021·1 replyNoah Parker
Ah I remember being your age. Back then you only had a couple of options when it came to music. This was before you could create infinite amounts of AI-generated music tailored to your brain waves to induce whatever mood you wanted
Back then, you had to rely on other humans to make the music first. Then they would upload it and you could stream it. There weren’t many options at first. Only a few people were really good. There was this guy named Aubrey. Well, that was his real name anyways. He went by Drake
Drake had a monopoly on listeners. Everyone listened to Drake. He was a cultural force. Everyone knew about him. Remember, this was back when your options for music were limited. There were other choices, but they weren’t that good.
Over time, more options appeared. Soon there were so many artists of quality that music listeners’ attention became decentralized. There were no more Drakes. There were millions of artists. Whatever your niche was, whatever mood you were in, there was an artist for that. From there, AI generated music took this even further. These days there aren’t any big artists. You just let your Neuralink directly read your brain waves and generate music perfectly tailored to you
I know this is probably copy pasta but i actually like this post lol
- May 16, 2021·1 reply
Lol no1 ever said "the big 3" was wayne kanye and whoever. Wayne was top dog and everyone submitted. It was his era. There was no big 3. T.I. and Kanye were some of the best from their era but there was a clear gap between those 2 and wayne. Jeezy as well. Idk why he went to drake like Jeezy wasnt doing his thing either back then. Man was a star.
The big 3 was literally invented for kendrick, drake, and cole.
May 16, 2021·2 repliesSaint AquinasBecause most travis fans are white. Yeah Astroworld sold more but Cole in 2018 was still talked about in rap circles that year more than travis. No1 really raps like travis in this era and production is a stretch. Cole has a larger impact on rap because his music is centered more on issues hip-hop culture tends to talk about. Be Free is a more talked about record than any Travis song. It did more for rap. Travis is just an artist in rap.
Idk about this one. Kanye and Cudi paved the way for guys like Trav to make a mainstream impact beyond genre, race, and even lyrical content (hence all their white fans). That doesn't discredit they're impact in hip hop however, most rappers nowadays are definitely making legit hip hop while calling themselves ragers and citing Cudi / Trav as their influence. It all started with a pink polo if we being real
May 16, 2021·1 replyRIP2VIdk about this one. Kanye and Cudi paved the way for guys like Trav to make a mainstream impact beyond genre, race, and even lyrical content (hence all their white fans). That doesn't discredit they're impact in hip hop however, most rappers nowadays are definitely making legit hip hop while calling themselves ragers and citing Cudi / Trav as their influence. It all started with a pink polo if we being real
Holy cringe
- May 16, 2021·1 replyCody World
Holy cringe
Aight Cole World that applies to your favorite rapper too.