Never said travis didnt impact rap. I said cole impacted it more. But it can't be understated how little of travis' fanbase isnt inclusive to hip-hop. Same with Cudi's lol. Kanye a diff story tho since hes human icon.

"most rappers nowadays"

Name em

still cringe Real Boy

Uzi, Carti, Jaden Smith, XxxTentacion, Don Toliver, Nav just to name a few.

I know Cole has had impact in the past for sure but we need a more recent example because that was before Trav had an album out. Since then Sicko Mode was definitely the most talked about track in 2018 it was so annoying and EVERYWHERE. That record did a lot for mainstream rap tho. Cole was top 3 but I'm just going by the facts, Trav passed him up it doesn't look like Off Season will bring him back up

And you last sentence is incorrect, Trav is bigger than just rap now, dude made the right moves

Almost everyone you posted cites cudi, not travis

Thanks

I wrote it in the style of a copy pasta

I don’t like how that’s ordered

It's really both though, I'm not tryna dig up the X tweet about Travis, but Carti and Uzi and even Trippie Redd have explicitly cited Trav in tweets interviews and most of them eventually got a feature js.

My favorite post by you

Sicko Mode didnt impact rap lol. It was just a big song fam.

The big 3 was literally invented for kendrick, drake, and cole.

Did the Big Three exist before Control ?

Bruh ok fam f*** it Cole can be in top 3 if you really want

Drake
Youngboy
Polo g

Biggest problem in music is people tend ignore stuff they don't like. You'll never catch me listening to Em but the impact was there whether I f*** with it or not..

I’ve always been suspicious of the inception of the Drake/Kendrick/Cole ‘top three’ as being less “this is the MC trinity of the 2010s” and moreso hiphop purists being wary of the new top guy (Drake) having an image/background that spits in the face of the ideal respected MC image while being undeniable as an MC, therefore being forced to acknowledge him (albeit begrudgingly, we remember the jokes/shunning)

So once Cole blows up it’s like “YES! We have a more traditional new guy coming to the top to balance this Drake madness”. Then Kendrick comes around and they’re even more happy. Because it’s really only those three checking off the boxes, at a certain point it became a trinity - a top three

This is all a suspicion tho

I’d say so, by the time GKMC was out definitely

they just want cole gone. it aint even about a big 3 im convinced

how did it impact rap?

That is what it is (which I understand if one doesn’t look at the MC part of a top three, in that case I would personally say Future)

But when you factor in who’s the biggest MCs? Yeah Cole has to be in there, even if one isn’t a fan

I bet if i brought up post malone, theyd have a fit

Could be recency bias + overexposure as well. You see Drake, Travis, Thug in 2021 more than you see Kenny or Cole and that's because they let it breathe a little between releases. In this era of social media, streaming and viral videos a lyrical verse doesn't hold attention as long as back to back drops from the same artists do.

It brought Hip-hop to the front of the cultural zeitgeist in a way we haven't seen since In Da Club or A Milli. How could you even go outside without hearing it in a house party or cars driving by? The memes and parodies were on every website from Reddit, Facebook, Twitter and even on ktt. You brought up Be Free and I remember the talk but Sicko Mode was that on steroids x 10. Did it change Rap forever? No neither of those songs did but they brought in more people and that brings in more revenue for the culture and attention for our people.

Ngl all it seems like ur saying is it was a party record and I'm not denying that. Memes and parodies aren't enough for me and there's plenty of records every year that do that if we being honest. Bodak Yellow basically did the same thing and it dropped a year before. I wouldn't call that impact. I'd also argue it didnt really bring in more people. Everyone bumping sicko mode already listened to travis and drake or are those usual fans of music who just listen to the biggest songs on the radio. There's definitely other records from the 2010s you could argue that had a larger impact culturally. Love Sosa, No Flockin, Dreams intro etc. Those actually did things besides just people listening to them at a club or having a few social media memes. To each his own.