they would make more sense to use than the current common terms

“artist” can mean you draw, design, make music, do karate (martial arts), practice sorcery (mystic arts), or many more things, but “musician” specifies you make music

“singer/songwriter/rapper” can be a mouthful, and the line between singer & rapper have blurred so much with certain vocalists that it’s an unnecessary argument to call someone one or the other, except in specific cases where a rapper definitely doesn’t sing or a singer definitely doesn’t rap

the musicians sometimes do more than music

A musician could just be someone who plays music

An artist is someone who makes music, but they are still musicians too

i had “anymore” at the end of the title but deleted it out before hitting post

nowadays, people call themselves “artists” instead of “vocalists”, but why has “vocalist” fallen out of common use?

good point

i forgot to mention this in op, but it also bugs me that “artist” is almost exclusively used in music to refer to vocalists & rarely ever beatmakers/producers

Vocalist implies classical training and a focus on technique. Someone like Future calling themself a vocalist would be pretty insulting to a lot of people.

i’ve seen/heard so many conversations go
“i make music”
“are you a producer or an artist?”
but why are producers not considered artists? use the term vocalist if that’s what you mean, because producers are artists

yeah and those same people also attend Klan rallies

bro what

they just pulled that out their ass LMAOOOOO

how white are you?

Lol bad example cuz Future def a Vocalist

This is a 60 year old white man under a beatles youtube video tier comment

@Mitchell thoughts?

Oh yeah I feel ur gripe w that, thats annoying. I get what you’re saying better now

I think when people use it in that context to mean an artist is someone who is performing for crowds, releasing music of their own etc which a lot of times the producer isn’t

But I say if you make ur own music you’re an artist and a musician the words are interchangeable for me but I see what you mean

I see what you’re saying. People are gonna go crazy about this because it’s KTT, but I get you. There are exceptions though like saying “the lead vocalist” of a band, doesn’t necessarily mean classically trained.

But most times I see the word used it’s in the context of a classically trained singer.

“ I’m a rockstar”- rappers

I don't think that musician is less of a mouthful than saying singer/rapper/etc

People just say the term that most closely reflects what it is that they do. If somebody says they're a musician then people will just ask them what kind of musician lol

So they probably just say Singer, rapper, producer, etc just cuz it narrows it down a lot more than just the general frame of musician.

It'd be like saying why don't athletes just call themselves athletes instead of calling themselves football, basketball, tennis, soccer, etc players

vocalist is more of a role credit thing than a proper title. also, it usually refers to one of many (vocalists)

Idk if it’s relevant but I’ve heard a lot of athletes talking about the term “athlete” to mean playing more than one sport lol

Like if you only play baseball and not football and basketball you’re not an athlete.

Whereas I don’t really hear that discussion amongst musician since we all use it as a broad term.

Thats hella dumb lmao

I agree but I’ve heard it a lot lol

You sing in a chorus so you know. All this s*** about "Klan" members and old white men is crazy considering if you do classical training you have to learn how foreign languages sound. No Klan member is out here learning Latin.
But you're right, it's KTT.

Even in layman's terms, vocalist is definitely used in the context of a band, not an individual singer.