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  • Mar 31
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    lil ufo

    if they start paying foreigners to come and rise their birthing rate imma be first in line

    Ayo ufo you wild

  • Mar 31
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    Birth rates are declining among all western and “1st world” countries, and this decline is deliberate and has been orchestrated by the powers that be

  • Ronin

    The idea that Japan’s birth rate is extraordinarily low is an old meme, the combination of Japan/East Asia being ahead of the curve on fertility/population decline, and the popular conception of Japan as “weird” - already multiple posts in this thread implying it is due to special Japanese cultural/social factors. In fact, today Japan has the same birth rate as Spain, Ukraine, Thailand, Puerto Rico, Italy, and Jamaica, a higher birth rate than China, Hong Kong, Singapore, and South Korea, and is just below Portugal, Greece, Finland, and Mauritius. Clearly, then it’s not a problem specific to certain countries, parts of the world, or cultures - places like Spain are almost diametrically opposed to East Asia in terms of cultural norms and social forces. Soon, the United States will have a similar birth rate, so I’d question whether a declining fertility rate or even a slow, natural population decline is bad - certainly, as Japan shows having experienced it for longer, it’s not disastrous.

  • Mar 31
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    Changeofheart

    Birth rates are declining among all western and “1st world” countries, and this decline is deliberate and has been orchestrated by the powers that be

    @ronin

  • Mar 31
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    I wonder what's going to happen with their education sector

    I think a kindergarten class would be about 25% the size there vs us if I looked up the right data

    Imagine if your high school classes had 5 kids in them vs 20

  • Changeofheart

    Birth rates are declining among all western and “1st world” countries, and this decline is deliberate and has been orchestrated by the powers that be

    Why ban abortion then

  • Mar 31
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    MrMudManMood

    @ronin

    My edit: “Birth rates are declining (or are soon going to decline) among all countries (although this decline occurred earlier and in a more pronounced manner in developed countries and in East Asia), and this decline is due to a number of complex economic, social, and technological changes and trends which cannot be controlled, only influenced, by people or organizations, and when they began their long-term consequences were not known”

  • Fever

    I wonder what's going to happen with their education sector

    I think a kindergarten class would be about 25% the size there vs us if I looked up the right data

    Imagine if your high school classes had 5 kids in them vs 20

    Extremely simple - close and merge schools. It is inevitable that in some rural areas there will be schools with very small student bodies, but this is already the case. Some high schools do indeed have a graduating class of 5 students and some elementary schools have multiple grade levels taught in the same class, etc.

  • The men & women in the country don’t date or procreate

  • lil ufo 🛸
    Mar 31
    tobacky rises4ever

    Ayo ufo you wild

    a ufo can only dream

  • crakc

    The countries with high birth rates are not exactly progressive

    Women’s role being mothers is a fundamental conservative idea

    In developed countries kids are more work for their parents

    In developing countries kids are less work for their parents bc they can help w farming and making clothes and stuff

    Poor s***education is also a very real issue and it doesn't get brought up often. It's literally about educating people from young and to missed out on that means you already fumbled the pillar itself

  • People are worked to the bone everyday that there’s no time for a social life, let alone raise a family.

    Not to mention they don’t want immigrants.

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    terrible work/life balance things will get better eventually because of the covid aftermath killed off a s*** ton of their old people and most sectors in different industries were hit hard because they lacked a sufficient amount of workers to replace those who were lost inevitably this is gonna lead to some sort of ease of restrictions towards foreigners gaining residency in the coming years.

  • Apr 1
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    Crazy how despite the lack of immigrants Japan still surpasses the UK, Germany, and Europe in general in tech and innovation these countries used to be known for world engineering just a few decades ago wtf happened everyone be focused on Korea, China, and Japan but Europe not only declining in birth but in everything else

  • Zalaianaese

    Crazy how despite the lack of immigrants Japan still surpasses the UK, Germany, and Europe in general in tech and innovation these countries used to be known for world engineering just a few decades ago wtf happened everyone be focused on Korea, China, and Japan but Europe not only declining in birth but in everything else

  • Zalaianaese

    Crazy how despite the lack of immigrants Japan still surpasses the UK, Germany, and Europe in general in tech and innovation these countries used to be known for world engineering just a few decades ago wtf happened everyone be focused on Korea, China, and Japan but Europe not only declining in birth but in everything else

    Their golden era in tech was the 1980s-90s. Since then they let USA, China, South Korea pass em by in innovation

  • Fever

    I wonder what's going to happen with their education sector

    I think a kindergarten class would be about 25% the size there vs us if I looked up the right data

    Imagine if your high school classes had 5 kids in them vs 20

    Daycare center enrollment in Korea continues to slide, dropping from over 1.41 million in 2018 to 1.09 million in 2022. Similarly, kindergarten enrollment declined from 675,998 in 2018 to 552,812 in 2022, marking an 18.2 percent decrease

  • Because you can buy s***dolls from a machine

  • Apr 2

    It’s true that the entire world will see declining birth rates but it’s untrue that it’s due to some blanket reasoning that applies worldwide

    The east is declining for a variety of reasons but primarily because women are putting off childbirth in favor of careers as they are now having the beginnings of their feminist movements. In South Korea the ideological divide between young men and women is particularly bad so it contributes a lot.

    China is in an interesting spot because they’re one of the few countries with less women than men due to parents during the one child policy highly favoring males. Now you have more men competing for less women making them more selective and careful with who they start families with.

    In America the birth rate will also decline but it will mostly be due to selfishness and people being broke. Primary reasons will be lack of money and not wanting the responsibility associated with kids.

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    The problem with using immigration to address the birth rate/population decline question is twofold: one, it does nothing to address the underlying issue of low birth rate, especially as immigrants will assimilate and in a couple generations have a similarly low birth rate, so you would need perpetual immigration, which leads us to the second problem: low birth rate is not just a problem in wealthy countries, developing countries which are immigrant sources also have a low birth rate/declining population, so if people leave them for wealthier countries, it has a compounding effect on population decline in those countries. Why should the Philippines suffer so that Japan can prosper? In fact, this is already happening in Eastern Europe, which has a natural population decline and high emigration (especially of the young and capable, to boot) to Western Europe, hence why most Eastern European countries have passed their population peak, Bulgaria has the world’s steepest population decline, etc. For that matter, having used Filipino immigration to “solve” population decline in Japan, how do you propose to “solve” it in the Philippines? Immigration from Myanmar? Then how do you “solve” population decline there? Etc. All the while you have done nothing to address the issue of the birth rate.

  • Apr 3
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    Belka

    Conservative and Openly Xenophobic to foreigners.

    What would either of those have to do with it

  • Apr 3
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    OnyxShine9

    What would either of those have to do with it

    • Japan having a face society to a harmful degree, where obedience and maintaining Status Quo is done at all cost.

    • Women wanting to work without pressure of marriage or children (Good luck having a career after pregnancy without getting questioned about your parental skills).

    • Long work hours.

    • Ethnonationalism (Isolationists).

  • Getting worked like dogs

  • Belka
    • Japan having a face society to a harmful degree, where obedience and maintaining Status Quo is done at all cost.

    • Women wanting to work without pressure of marriage or children (Good luck having a career after pregnancy without getting questioned about your parental skills).

    • Long work hours.

    • Ethnonationalism (Isolationists).

    But three of those have been a way of life/culture for them for quite a while so it doesn’t explain why it’s just now causing this problem
    The wanting to work without marriage/child pressure is the only one that explains it but I doubt it that alone would cause a change so drastic

  • Zalaianaese

    Crazy how despite the lack of immigrants Japan still surpasses the UK, Germany, and Europe in general in tech and innovation these countries used to be known for world engineering just a few decades ago wtf happened everyone be focused on Korea, China, and Japan but Europe not only declining in birth but in everything else

    Common Europe L