I mean yeah it's an addictive substance, but from what I know it's necessarily not worse than a lot of other substances that don't get the same treatment like alcohol...

Also the most harmful effects of cig smoking seems to be the the tar etc not the nicotine itself.....

So my question is .....

it's all bad so i stay away.

illuminati

op anti caffeine but pro nicotine

Big tobacco going crazy …

Google who OPs uncle is and you'll find out why

demonized is a strong word i think in this case. i mean here in the US just by an eyeball test, the amount of people that use, imo certainly shows it is not demonized so to speak. it has a bad wrap yes, but people still treat it the same in terms of usage. if your out somewhere drinking i'd wager to say 75% of people will use.

Proud of you & fair enough but i wanna know what arguments the alcohol/weed lovers that shyt on nicotine got to say

OP really addicted to smokes and pushing his propaganda lol.

i’m assuming it’s a gateway d***

Are there cigs that don't have all the s***ty chemicals or are there cigs that just purely use nicotine?

There's a war on flavored vapes in the westoid world for some reason

There's vapes and they seem to be a lot less harmful compared to cigs although the full picture isn't quite clear yet and they making that shyt illegal

well yes, because EVERYONE using. s*** is out of hand. it is a pandemic. but! i agree, except nothing is actually being done about it lmao. Brandon is taking the nic outta cigs and trying to ban juul. no mention of the 9 million flavored disposable vape brands.

That's only cause cigs were becoming a boomer meme and slowly disappearing from the new gen, then tobacco companies marketed vapes to kids to hook them early. Those vape users are eventually going to want to use normal cigs for a bigger hit.

It's just a hard reaction to that tactic.

i disagree. i do not foresee flavored vape users transitioning to cigs.

But why is it so bad tho

Like everybody drinking alcohol as well and that's def 100% worse, nobody killing mfs on a highway bc they drove after vaping

Why the focus on nic

the flavored ones are really appealing to most people than say menthol/tobacco flavored ones and i think they know it

"Nicotine is a dangerous and highly addictive chemical. It can cause an increase in blood pressure, heart rate, flow of blood to the heart and a narrowing of the arteries (vessels that carry blood). Nicotine may also contribute to the hardening of the arterial walls, which in turn, may lead to a heart attack"

But alcohol is poison too so there is plenty to discuss within the different perception of substances and their consumption

but nic over alcohol is dumb as s***

All tru brother

Inter generational bullshyt def a part

Thing is

These flavord vapes were used by people who wanna get off cigs as well

Banning flavored vapes was shown to increase cig use bc of that

So why we going stoopid vro

Read my post above vro

i think the big reason is the ambiguity. we know the harms of liquor they've been documented for years and years. this new tech is unproven yet in terms of health effects, to my knowledge at least. anyone who is ever trying to get off it thinks it'll be the same as cigs were. that we didnt know the negative effects until we were already addicted, so have to stop now.

Caffeine can also have negative cardiovascular affects not to mention mental and sleep wise

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4925085

Maybe not the entire generation, but it does add new smokers to tobacco companies

Wait quoted wrong post