I miss smoking

Its just from the intro of this classic

It’s way more common than you think among college aged kids

It helps in moderation but as you get addicted it becomes more of a crutch less of a benefit

because it's a d*** that passively affects the ones around you

We smoke cigs and die like real men

Then they’re f***ing stupid
Like how tf you go from flavored vapes to straight tobacco and chemicals

Nicotine hit isn’t enough anymore? Cigarette smoking is still very prevalent at bars and clubs around the country?

Nicotine is one of the easiest things to get addicted to

With the right nicotine salt, it can hit even better than a cigarette. Ima still call em for what they are. Absolute imbeciles. By justifying it and tryna reason with this mentality, you’re pushing the narrative that vaping leads to smoking when in reality by the way you’re describing it, being around pushy smokers tryna push that bullshit onto you leads to smoking.

I’m just telling you how most college kids I know are lol if they’re vaping they’re also smoking because it feels better

And I’m not trying to justify or push anything. Every bar I go to I see college kids chain smoking between drinks

Its not healthy to directly inhale smoke just off of the most basic common sense possible

But damn nicotine hits nice

Im vaping rn because i have a nicotine headache and cant sleep kinda f***ed really. Gotta suck my cigs pimps d*** off to get some sleep.

Idk when I was in London the amount of smoking was crazy

What that quote doesn't tell you is that most of the high risk health dangers of nicotine come from inhaling it by combustion (actual fire), because combustion alters nicotine's structure and makes it much harsher and more potent.

Over the past decade there has been much research and even successful human experiments by psychologists and medical scientists using nicotine patches as a treatment and preventative for cognitive conditions like alzheimers and dementia. If nicotine was truly THAT dangerous in its pure, stabilized state, then it wouldn't even be considered as a possible treatment for diseases that often effect older people with higher chances of co-morbidity, much less be funded for years to do research and testing that has barely been publicized.

What OP said is absolutely true. While nicotine isn't good for your general health — which can be said for literally anything, including weed, that you can inhale or ingest that isn't oxygen, water, or unprocessed food — the literal hundreds of added chemicals and tar in cigarettes and processed smokeless tobacco products are what really make them much, much more dangerous than just nicotine alone. The combustion process of nicotine ingestion with cigarettes is just icing on the proverbial health risk cake.

Why has the UK had a significant vaping industry for 2-3x longer than the US, with study after study saying there hasn't been any significant recording of vaping leading younger/underage people to cigarettes?

I would argue that popular vape products, many of which are manufactured and sold by independent, non-traditional companies, are not turning people to cigarettes at all. Rather, it would be the action of banning or severely cutting access to vape products that would actually lead people to buy cigarettes out of convenience and addiction, which would be a huge benefit for tobacco corps.

In the US, just like it has been repeatedly reported in the UK, vape pens and products have proven to be invaluable for getting people to quit cigarettes — the tobacco corps do not like vape companies.

And while it's a cliche, it must be reiterated: vaping is a FAR healthier option for nicotine users compared to cigarettes. I dont know why so many people hear that and think it says "vaping is healthy". It's not.

But there are also tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people out there, including myself, who smoked a pack of cigs or more every single day, and managed to quit them entirely thanks to modern vape products. That is a good thing.

Traditional tobacco slavery conglomerates distilling propaganda to hold onto their precious money printing poison packs.

Thanks for such a through response that took in multiple angles, always good to learn more and there's a lot here that I didn't know

Also, the Truth anti-smoking/vaping campaigns receive funding from Anheuser-Busch, which is quite funny and sinister

Do you have any thoughts on people using vapes heavily without it being a way to stop smoking?

You said it better than I could about it not being healthy but way better than cigarettes but I've heard things like popcorn lung/heavy metals/etc here and there but haven't looked much beyond that

Once I found out doctors be prescribing e cigarettes to stop smoking in the UK, reading how vaping barely affects lungs compared to smoking, I been stopped falling for the s*** people be pushing

I Used nicotine to make my cardio exercises more challenging

Well this is just me guessing based on media and personal observation, but it mostly does seem to be younger people (like high school-undergrad age) who start vaping without ever trying a cigarette. And there's likely various reasons for this:

Social pressure/desire to be liked or be rebellious as a way to develop identity, which is a universal motivator for most Western people that age. They might've just tried it once at a party or something and picked it up from there.

That's how many people originally picked up cigarettes when I was in high school: going to a party and getting drunk, and discovering how awesome smoking cigarettes feels when drunk. Then only smoking them when you're drunk at parties. Before you know it, you're buying them after school and smoking them daily without drinking at all.

Much like cigarettes, I definitely don't think it's a good thing that people that age (or any age) pickup vaping out of nowhere like that — but i also don't think it's truly some kind of priority issue, nor should it be a reason to create legislation that limits the sale or accessibility of vape products.

In high school and college, almost every person i knew or hung out with smoked cigarettes and drank (and did coke, pills, etc.) Now that time has passed and we are all grown up, virtually none of them do any actual d****, and a very small percentage of them still smoke cigarettes. Most of them still drink alcohol regularly. I was one of that small percentage who stuck with cigarettes for years and years — and i dont drink alcohol or do any d****; i don't even smoke weed.

I think vaping should primarily be a tool to help people like me who were not able to kick their bad cigarette habit they picked up in high school. Or worse, help people who have been smoking cigarettes daily for 40+ years.

However, i will also say that if younger people are now picking up vaping at parties and from friends instead of cigarettes, then that is indeed a good thing at least.

I have no idea why someone in their late 20s, 30s, or older who has never smoked cigarettes would suddenly pick up vaping. I mean im sure there are people like that haha, and they're adults who can do what they want — i just dont understand it

Yeah best to just ignore 99% of it haha

I dont know how people could try demonizing vape users like that after they've helped so many people stop cigs.

The UK literally covers all of their cigarette packs in black paper and puts actual pictures of corpes and rotting flesh on them. And yet their streets are still filled with cig smokers. Nothing has worked to get people off cigs easily as well as vaping has.

Have you ever known anyone who has tried Chantix or whatever that medicine is to help stop smoking? That s*** will literally give you the most horrifying, demonic nightmares you will ever have in your life to the point where you will be scared to sleep, and it still isn't nearly as successful as vaping has been

Why bump don't expose me

!dream nicotine, DEMON DEMON DEMON