one ad doesn’t change it from being not taboo, in fact you just argued that there was alot pushback meaning it’s still considered taboo

2nd/3rd comment from this video also says this:

“As it turns out the woman talking in this ad didn't want to die and instead wanted help, but Canada's nonexistent medical system denied her for years until she got tire of waiting and chose death, and without waiting for her to finish her sentence Canada approved her death and celebrated it.

This ad is disgusting and anybody that approves of it need to do some soul searching.As it turns out the woman talking in this ad didn't want to die and instead wanted help, but Canada's nonexistent medical system denied her for years until she got tire of waiting and chose death, and without waiting for her to finish her sentence Canada approved her death and celebrated it.”

The idea of a person possessing the bodily autonomy to end their life with a sound mind isnt necessarily a bad thing, but the underlying conditions that give rise to people feeling that this is their only option shouldn’t be ignored

Idk how you can see this video and automatically just to it not being taboo anymore

why is it wrong? elaborate

@SSPMU6KL

i am chronically ill and have severe mental issues and trauma. so do i pass the moral bar to kill myself now?

nah this s*** in Canada is f***ing disgusting, even the UN has condemned Canada for this eugenics program

they're basically recommending suicide to disabled people and people with mental illness. its more economically efficient to kill people than actually offer them robust treatment. its not ethical in any shape or form and they're only doing it to save money while virtue signalling it as "progressive"

saw a disabled dude on the news who was getting evicted and said that he was gonna kill himself cuz he'd rather be dead than homeless. thats the sad reality of this b**** ass country, they can help you kill yourself but cant give you affordable housing or help you actually improve your material conditions

To be real, who gives a f*** if it’s taboo, it’s not like it’s considered cool to call someone who killed themselves a coward or something, most people would consider that way out of bounds. So it’s not really that frowned upon on that level

But even if it was, it’s not like they gonna be able to shame you for it when you’re gone

That said, theres a lot of truth in the fact that it’s selfish at the end of the day. I struggle with these thoughts too but there’s no way to sugarcoat it, if you have any family then it’s not right to ruin their lives because you’re having trouble handling yours.

When I’m really in a wrong state of mind I might feel like it’s unfair that I have to suffer for the sake of others but there’s no doubt that putting people through that kind of pain of a loved one killing themself is absolutely wrong. personal freedom doesn’t carry over to things that would ruin other people’s lives

uh making a commercial for everyone to see? name commercials youve seen about taboo things

what is good and what is fulfilling. your definition of a good and fulfilling life may not match mine or another person’s. for someone a good life can be achieved being essentially homeless. ending your life never allows you to see if your life can be good or fulfilling. life is about the pursuit of it you’re giving up hope and not even trying. if you die you don’t even know how good of a life you could possibly have because you’re not even giving yourself the chance of trying.

also God didn’t give us life to throw it away. life is short but it’s longer than you think you can still be what you want

It's because of the effect it has on loved ones

If everyone say f*** it let people kill themselves it will cascade and I'm general is not a good idea if you want a functional society

Tldr: not good for morale

i asked this on the last page, but how does me as an autonomous adult ending my own life ruin someone else’s? i get the grieving and being sad about it, but there’s just no way it should ruin another persons life. that sounds extreme. if i had trouble handling my life, i wouldn’t even be here to make this thread. i am able to handle it, problem is just that i am not enjoying it at all.

however i do still agree that it is somehow a selfish act, but society shows us that you have to be selfish to get to your goal. idk, shaming people for ending their lives just always comes across as performative to me. and most of the times it comes from people who couldn’t even walk a mile in your shoes lol. btw, this isn’t necessarily aimed at you, you’re just the person i’m replying to. thanks for sharing your perspective

If your on deaths door yeah no one wants to see you suffer

Otherwise it’s best to take the effort to get better instead of just giving up

Can you describe what is making u feel this way? I was suicidal a few months but bounced back

Few years ago I was rly suicidal in an out the hospital for months. We here for u big bro

you spittin

I’m not trying to “shame” anyone but it’s just not a good thing.

Having someone you love end their life is different than regular grieving. That s*** destroys families and leaves scars forever.

Especially in the case of parents; you know the saying no parent should out live their kid. And it happens but no parent is ever the same if they lose their son or daughter, no matter how it is. That’s the worst pain that I can imagine in this world. Add to that the feeling that you failed your child, that somehow the way they felt was your fault. That s*** ain’t just regular grieving and sadness, that s*** is horrific, it’s absolutely life ruining

As far as society, I wouldn’t apply the “be selfish to get ahead” thinking, which is flawed in its own way, to this topic lol it just doesn’t really apply imo

Because other people don't see the way you do. There probably is nothing worse in life than your child taking their own life. It's hard to fathom the connection a parent has to their child. You would have to have very understanding parents. I don't know you, but I'm sure your parents have also been through some rough times in life and persevered through to see better days

I am a bit biased here, because a few years ago I was living in fear every day that my depressed sister would take her own life. I was so scared, every day. If she had, my parents would have never recovered for the rest of their lives. Would have made a major impact on us. Maybe this is selfish of me, I don't know. But I did know that she was young, with so much left to see, so much left to experience. That to call it quits so early felt so wrong

The way I see it, if I every get to the point where I feel like ending it, I'd rather f*** off to some other remote part of the world and try to see much as I can before I go. If I'm gonna end things anyway, why not put it off a month and live like you literally have nothing to lose. Blow credit card money to do it, I don't know. If you're gonna end it all, it shouldn't matter right? Maybe you'll change your mind. Maybe I can only picture this because I'm not depressed, and nobody truly depressed would bother. I don't know

Just get on with it ffs

So you telling me you don’t want to see Beyond The Spiderverse?

yeah okay

People that throw themselves before a train 👎👎👎

some ppl cant see the bigger picture

you are right on that part and that’s the reason i’m still here. don’t want my mum thinking she failed me, the world did. it’s not her fault. i just don’t wanna be here anymore lmao i wish people could just understand this without feeling some type of way. but it’s probably different if that’s your kid i understand that. just wish there was a solution for everybody

Always right before my stop

• chronic depression and illness

• no idea what to do with life

• having to work my ass off to maintiain a living

• feeling numb

• poverty

to name some

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