elaborate?

big brain time

God wasn’t punishing Job. We’ve gone over this already

At the end of the day, things have only gone bad for those who turned their back on God. He looks after those who keep their faith in Him, even when they are under his wrath due to outside circumstances. Those who don’t, get disciplined. He sends messages. He makes examples of people who do wrong. This doesn’t make him evil.

He’s so loving and graceful, that he’s given you your entire life to come to him and build a relationship with him. Every single breath you take is another moment he grants you to repent and make up for your transgressions, no matter what they are. We’ve been waiting for Yeshua to return for over 1000 years because God wants as many people to repent as possible before it is too late. Do you understand that? The end of the world as we know it (and it’s going to be 20x worse than anything in the Old Testament) is being delayed because God wants to save more rebellious souls, people who curse him and such. How is this not loving and graceful?

Honestly this whole discussion is moot cus even if God wanted to, destroying everything and everyone he made is within his right and wisdom as God. We are not to judge.

yeah. he purposefully made us flawed, to punish us when we exhibit those flaws?

Precisely. He is the creator of EVERYTHING. He IS.

If you don't recognize that God is above creation, time, truth, you won't realize the argument that God can do anything He wills.

It's interesting actually. Goat in Hebrew is actually one of the names or earthly features of the devil. Naturally we see this with Baphomet, the GOAT acronym etc. In Hebrew, Goat means:

Sair; from H8175
shaggy; as noun, a he-goat; by a***ogy, a faun:—devil, goat, hairy, kid, rough, satyr.

So as we know Azazel, in Hebrew Azazel is naturally a fallen angel but he's also represented as a 'scapegoat' in Leviticus 16.

Hebrew Reference on Azazel

When Jesus says he's separating His Sheep from the goats... it has multiple layers it.

Same in Daniel, when he describes Alexander the Greek as a "He-Goat" that word is Sair. Same with the description of Esau, he was hairy "sair" like a rough garment.

Israel and the Church/Sheep being one Nation of people and Esau and the Pagans/Goats being the other nation(s) of people.

There are so many parallels and dynamics, it's fun to learn this kinda stuff.

There is a certain arrogance in thinking we, mere humans, know better than God, what is just and fair.

We were born in this flesh not to say the same. We're born in this flesh to realize there's a better way and that's being born of the Spirit through Christ. The moment we're baptized, we begin to remove the traits of the flesh and put on the Spirit of God, to then be called Gods children. This process doesn't happen overnight, it's a growth period that revolves around drinking milk (core biblical principles) so we can eat real food (spiritual gifts, higher level of thinking etc. mysteries of the bible, bring people to Christ)

God made us to be perfect, and thru Christ we can reach that pinnacle. Then once we're in the kingdom, we receive immortality. No more illnesses, arguing, murdering, strife, TYB etc. No more problems and evil on the earth. The world will be at peace, we will all be in paradise. Jus Chillin.

Get this! God knows the desires of your heart, Jesus said "In my Fathers house there are many mansions. I must prepare them for you (us)" The moment we being to turn our life to him, bro what we receive in life eternal is 100x better than what we have here today. It's a path worth following, it's about faith. Faith is one of the most important gifts God gives us. Love is what gels everything together. That's Gods eternal imprint, His love. When we love each other by keeping His commandments, we create that peace on earth. As we're entering the last day, (if we're not already in it) as Cherrywine @HALLEBERRY stated, those OT Plagues are gonna be here but 20x worse. By starting now and turning to God, we can ensure that ourselves and family members are protected during these troubles.

i dont think that changes anything?

point being that no matter what, there will always be those that “choose the wrong path”, only by the virtue of how its designed

He is so above every imaginable thing, that words like justice, evil and good are underneath him. He gives value to those words.

Instead of judging what is evil off a textbook dictionary reading or personal conviction, God ultimately decides what He deems “evil” and what He deems “good”. If you give those words more power beyond Him, then you ultimately fail to recognize God’s essence.

i don’t think the human interpretation of evil which he himself created can be easily dismissed like that

Why not? Aren’t we always told to obey God’s commands? It’s okay to say you don’t understand His ways, but to argue that He could be evil is a self-defeating argument.

suffering to the point we ponder “why god?” is a designed trait. otherwise we wouldn’t do it.

i think you have this idea god is infinitely loving and caring. he’s both that and evil. its both.

why can we determine hes loving but not evil? why one and not the other

its an uncomfortable thought. which is why the evil has heen sanitized to a separate entity, “lucifer”

I don’t say He is infinitely loving or caring, nor do i say He is evil. Good and evil need not be applied to God, since He is ultimately free from our and any moral judgement.

He created us and that fact alone proves his superiority. The benevolence He shows are signs of His Majesty and Grace. His punishments are signs of His Wisdom. But even those words fall short of describing the sheer magnitude and importance of God. Cause what do you measure them up against? Even infinity by this logic falls short of God. Cause even that would have to be created somehow.

This is turning into a theological argument by the way for which i have not much more to say, but i just wanted to help you understand God from a theistic perspective and not just an atheist one.

gotquestions.org/Lucifer-Satan.html

right but he also created us in a way that allows us to

1. suffer
2. be aware of suffering
3. contemplate why we suffer <<

its not just that we suffer and theres some grand reason for it unbeknownst to us.

why is #3 necessary for that?

if i created a virtual world w feeling sentient beings and checked those 3 points for universe generation, would i not be evil?

i get the point you’re making but i can’t get past this one

The idea of salvation/forgiveness for your sins and no hierarchy amongst the living were revolutionary ideas at the time.

Evil is in all of us, not just in Satan, he examplifies pride and arrogance, but everytime we are not thankful to God ultimately we are being "less than good" which could even be argued is a form of evil too.

God wants us to worship Him, He has a specific goal for our creation, so not obeying our purpose is ultimately an act of rebellion and thus evil. Thus worthy of punishment and indignation. In this life or the next.

Why would an omniscient god create Covid

Whatever the goal of our creation is God could have easily done it without creating suffering in the world