mr get dough

10mo

I have a nuanced opinion on Fantano

On one hand I definitely see how tone deaf and pretentious he can be especially in his older days, and people definitely take his opinions as the law and adopt his beliefs which is corny as f***

But he has some entertaining content and I appreciate his passion for music.he helped a lot of great artist get a bigger platform and ive found music through him before. I think hes cool if u dont take him too serious

brutallust

10mo

yeah fantano is mostly only good for ppl just getting into non-mainstream music n trying to discover new s*** + occasionally if he's super passionate about a project he'll have a lot to say.

but especially since he started going all in on his second channel, it's clear his time n energy is stretched too thin 2 b truly insightful consistently

voriox

10mo

but even then he has little to nothing to say of substance about the music itself. he's obviously not a well versed musician at all, as much as he tries to flaccidly give that image with his occasional below mid bass playing. The way he talks about music is devoid of any understanding of how music actually works or should be talked about. that goes for basically all music reviewers in general lol. listening to a music reviewer instead of listening to the album itself to begin with is crazy to me. unless someone is actually a composer or music teacher or versed in any kind of theory or music production at all and can actually break down the music for you in a way that is actually useful you should not be listening to that mf for anything music related because they are literally no more qualified than you are

this right here is what im talking about. this man is 110% qualified to talk about music, let alone rock music like Velvet Underground, and he ain't even pretentious even though he kinda sounds like he might be lol. he praises it for what it is after appraising and a***yzing it. this is an a***ysis but this is what music "reviews" should actually take after but instead it's a bunch of unqualified media personalities talking bout how the latest s*** is "woefully uninterested in its own potential subversiveness" or has "dazzlingly bright textures and sounds" or some other completely meaningless pseudo intellectual verbose fluff that is completely unhelpful lmfao. reviewers like fantano and P4k somehow finding any kind of success, rapport or respect and actually being able to have sway in the industry are just the inevitable consequence of a post Reagan world where the average person has literally no music education whatsoever, which was not always the case.

Notmyfirst

10mo

my thing is, there's a way to write meaningfully about music without knowing any theory but fantano fails even in that regard. His reviews just blend together in a way that's insane for someone of his popularity

voriox

10mo

i agree, but to me that doesn’t really qualify as an actually valuable review that should sway people away from actually listening to something themselves. more like a treatise or just a poetic reinterpretation. i love the way mark fisher writes about James Blake and burial in ghosts of my life, for example. it's beautiful, insightful and useful, just not in a way that's necessarily theoretically and musically useful.

Assadot Dhakur

10mo

Why is this in the Kendrick section?

Not Like Josuke

10mo

He’s a white man. His opinion worth 2 jars of pickled pig feet especially when it comes to black music

mr get dough

10mo

I have a nuanced opinion on Fantano

On one hand I definitely see how tone deaf and pretentious he can be especially in his older days, and people definitely take his opinions as the law and adopt his beliefs which is corny as f***

But he has some entertaining content and I appreciate his passion for music.he helped a lot of great artist get a bigger platform and ive found music through him before. I think hes cool if u dont take him too serious

Notmyfirst

10mo

that's exactly who I had in mind, though I do think he's a little on the deep end when it comes to that style of music writing. I think there's a middle ground that can be struck to write about music without resorting to just bland comments on the sonics like you mentioned which fantano uses like a crutch

If we had to pick between the 2 extremes I think I rather everyone attempt to wax poetic about something they love instead of treating it like a statement of facts which honestly tells me just as little as the poetic interpretation but at least the latter has some semblance of value

voriox

10mo

but even then he has little to nothing to say of substance about the music itself. he's obviously not a well versed musician at all, as much as he tries to flaccidly give that image with his occasional below mid bass playing. The way he talks about music is devoid of any understanding of how music actually works or should be talked about. that goes for basically all music reviewers in general lol. listening to a music reviewer instead of listening to the album itself to begin with is crazy to me. unless someone is actually a composer or music teacher or versed in any kind of theory or music production at all and can actually break down the music for you in a way that is actually useful you should not be listening to that mf for anything music related because they are literally no more qualified than you are

this right here is what im talking about. this man is 110% qualified to talk about music, let alone rock music like Velvet Underground, and he ain't even pretentious even though he kinda sounds like he might be lol. he praises it for what it is after appraising and a***yzing it. this is an a***ysis but this is what music "reviews" should actually take after but instead it's a bunch of unqualified media personalities talking bout how the latest s*** is "woefully uninterested in its own potential subversiveness" or has "dazzlingly bright textures and sounds" or some other completely meaningless pseudo intellectual verbose fluff that is completely unhelpful lmfao. reviewers like fantano and P4k somehow finding any kind of success, rapport or respect and actually being able to have sway in the industry are just the inevitable consequence of a post Reagan world where the average person has literally no music education whatsoever, which was not always the case.

mr get dough

10mo

I have a nuanced opinion on Fantano

On one hand I definitely see how tone deaf and pretentious he can be especially in his older days, and people definitely take his opinions as the law and adopt his beliefs which is corny as f***

But he has some entertaining content and I appreciate his passion for music.he helped a lot of great artist get a bigger platform and ive found music through him before. I think hes cool if u dont take him too serious

genghiskharti

10mo

Music theory

voriox

10mo

ignorant niggas like you