Kanye is one of the primary hip hop artists of the 2010s who it was “okay” for non hip hop listeners to listen to

By that I mean, he brought in a lot of people who previously never cared for or paid attention to hip hop because publications such as pitchfork deemed him “one of the good ones”. By working with people like Bon Iver he was able to cross over into and get respect from the indie rock fanbase. The result of this is it ushered in a lot of people who previously never cared about rap having very loud and very incorrect opinions that talk down on all other hip hop as not being “artistic” or “experimental” enough, despite never having really studied the genre like that

People like to talk about how Em is the primary rapper for people who don’t listen to rap, and that’s no untrue, but Kanye’s music also represents the same thing, but to a different, more hipster - and arguably just as racist - demographic. Both fanbases are harmful to and ignorant of the culture. This is not Kanye’s fault it just is what it is.

Huh

What an ignorant post

You could say the same thing for a ton of rappers though

I wouldn’t go that far.

I will say his most diehard fans have conflated innovation with quality though

Feel like KanYe, Drake and Kendrick all have a role to play in this as well as Em

If anything Ye keeps the spirit of hip hop alive

You got balls. And your word. That’s it.

@Cookies had a similar take as op and pointed out how MBDTF was the turning point for this

you are bringing this discussion up on a kanye fan forum with mostly white kids

Kinda true, people used to start with old school artists and now you have people who don’t know what hip hop was like pre kanye

this is 100% true and where I would pinpoint the beginning of this phenomenon as well.

Couldn’t this be marked off as just an age gap, like there are teens on KTT, i wouldnt expect them to know most 90s HipHop outside of Pac/Biggie

yeah he appeals to people who don’t normally listen to rap that doesn’t make it “racist” or problematic you f***ing idiot

OP is right

Yes especially post-Trump

there’s nothing ignorant about it

he elevated hip hop to high art, and simultaneously brought in hipsters

it isn’t his fault, but yeah

He said the demographic can be as racist....

Reading is fundamental

Hit dogs will holler

it's ok to say in plain english that Ye appeals to yt ppl

Eminem tho

people just throw out the word racist for literally whatever and recoil so hideously when they receive even the slightest pushback or good faith line of questioning into the basis of that accusation

u right and it does kinda irk u to see some of those same c***nerd fans speak on hiphop like they know wtf they talking about