you are bringing this discussion up on a kanye fan forum with mostly white kids
ktt only abt 1/3 white tbh
believe it or not lol
it's ok to say in plain english that Ye appeals to yt ppl
Kanye appeals to tons of Black people too.
His first 3 albums and WTT got TONS of play in my hood.
OP does have a point but I thought this was kinda accepted after the Ye vs 50 bet for Graduation
Kinda true, people used to start with old school artists and now you have people who don’t know what hip hop was like pre kanye
Those are the worst type of people. They usually go "that's all I need to listen to"
people just throw out the word racist for literally whatever and recoil so hideously when they receive even the slightest pushback or good faith line of questioning into the basis of that accusation
I’m assuming you’re getting defensive about this cuz you’re white and this post hits home for you a bit too much
I’m not saying every white Kanye stan is racist, If it don’t apply let it fly. Your defensiveness is telling tho
Couldn’t this be marked off as just an age gap, like there are teens on KTT, i wouldnt expect them to know most 90s HipHop outside of Pac/Biggie
Exactly. The Wu Tang clan sells out shows and stadiums all over the world.
Niggas really think White rap fans under the age of 27 are the only fans of the genre lol.
You guys can't ping-pong between wanting hip-hop to be successful and evolving but also having a strict interpretation of what hip-hop should be, sound like, and move towards.
Not saying you aren't making sense, but what do you guys really want then? Was Kanye not supposed to make MBDTF? Or 808's? Or Yeezus? Just keep making The College Dropout until he went into obscurity?
Feel like KanYe, Drake and Kendrick all have a role to play in this as well as Em
Hipsters don't listen to Drake lol
Exactly. The Wu Tang clan sells out shows and stadiums all over the world.
Niggas really think White rap fans under the age of 27 are the only fans of the genre lol.
Why "under the age of 27"
OP does have a point but I thought this was kinda accepted after the Ye vs 50 bet for Graduation
OP's point is kinda invalid though because Kanye never distanced himself from his urban audience until JIK.
Even Yeezus is influenced hy Chicago House and had a song called New Slaves.
Plus, Kanye got vilified for the VMA moment, triggered White people with other public comments, etc. when other rappers were keeping their head low.
Also, 50 in his prime had a much bigger White audience than Kanye both in America and overseas.
people just throw out the word racist for literally whatever and recoil so hideously when they receive even the slightest pushback or good faith line of questioning into the basis of that accusation
racism is not a this or that side of the fence concept
the people @op speaks of can have racist sentiments, opinions, taste etc etc without ever openly seeming racist to the naked eye... yet their ignorance & perspective can still very much be problematic and very much speaks volumes given the system that breeds them
we see this s*** so much, please don't tell me youre blind to it
also your tunnel vision perspective makes you the f***ing idiot lol
You guys can't ping-pong between wanting hip-hop to be successful and evolving but also having a strict interpretation of what hip-hop should be, sound like, and move towards.
Not saying you aren't making sense, but what do you guys really want then? Was Kanye not supposed to make MBDTF? Or 808's? Or Yeezus? Just keep making The College Dropout until he went into obscurity?
where in OP’s post did he say hip hop is supposed to sound a certain way?
Why "under the age of 27"
I just mean that White kids and young adults aren't the only rap fans that matter. There's tons of White rap fans 30 and older that are bigger fans of hip hop pre-Kanye.
You guys can't ping-pong between wanting hip-hop to be successful and evolving but also having a strict interpretation of what hip-hop should be, sound like, and move towards.
Not saying you aren't making sense, but what do you guys really want then? Was Kanye not supposed to make MBDTF? Or 808's? Or Yeezus? Just keep making The College Dropout until he went into obscurity?
the point is that kanye fans tend to be these hipsters that are snobs to anything that isn’t “out of the box” or “experimental”
this throws dirt on literally tons of fantastic albums that have came out in the genre just because it doesn’t sound edgy or different enough to fit their pretentious taste’s sensibilities
I felt this way about Tyler fans. Back when he started
still to this day, like his fans were complaining about dj drama tags lmao
Any popular rapper brings a lot of white ppl in lol
U cant become popular fr if u dont appeal to white people to some extent