Travis said this s***?

That sub definitely is CACtacular

Holy s*** they got his ass in 4k

EXACTLY. And Wayne is far away from Eminem in relevance these days even though they both legends

I PUT MY ORANGE FOUR INCHE DOOR HINGE IN STORAGE AND ATE PORRIDGE WITH GEORGE

Are u stupid ? His lows are lower than his highs ? Are you serious ? This nigga has 2 albums that arguably are in the top 50 of rap albums you dumb f*** he had a number album and movie at the same time.

Come on Trav

Y'all thinking like 20 years ago. That was something at the start of his career, but nowadays that really doesn't matter

i don’t agree that wayne discog is that bad

but regardless nobody is denying em is a legend. he’s just not approaching my top 10 when i can only go back to like 2-3 of his albums out of what like 13

He was important to serial killers and woman beaters.

Bruh no one denies his sales

NGL that white kid subreddit had some pretty relevant info

And if there was a list of the worst rap records of all time, Revival would be on it

Gotta say that I'm not denying his fall off, but he still being relevant even with those mid records, and it's something that amazes me

And you think that out weighs what I just said? Ok

Everyone with common sense acknowledges his impact in hip hop. Em hate comes from him having the mentality of a stuck up old head and dropping terrible projects. They’re 2 ways you can age in the game. A OG or old head and em is a old head

"Idk why but the Eminem hate is super strong after this forum became KTT2."
The "hate" = people finding him overrated, his corny sometimes racist/homophobic/mysoginistic fans only acknowledging him as a top tier rapper, his corny lyrics, his devolution in music quality but ego stayed the same, not having any integrity (sold out after relapse, admitted that he sold out on that song with Joyner Lucas, who the f*** liked shameless sellouts)

"This man is relevant for hip hop and music in general for literally 20+ years, everything he does goes super viral, still selling and making numbers as f*** and it seems to still bother a lot of other artists."

He's white and he has been relevant because of controversy and bottom of the barrel shock value attempts (mentioning tragic events and celebs) - outside of that, hasn't impacted hip hop culture at all (only em could get industry backing whilst doing/saying all the f*** s*** he did, because his majority white fan base financed the antics)

"Eminem went through any kind of music consumption and reached top tier levels in all of them: mtv, cds, mp3, youtube, spotify etc etc"

• because he has a very loyal, we only listen to eminem rap music fan base, congrats

"He will be the one to be put after Big and Pac in a legends top 3"

-Never happening because flow wise he didn't invent s*** (accused of biting underground Detroit rappers

• biggie and pac were relevant to black people :
  -tupac for his story (black panther affiliation though his mother and being a member of the new African panther movement), his advocating for inner city black issues.

-Biggie for bringing back platinum plaques to the hood, his immaculate flow execution (likened to a jazz player) and all around iconic NY demeanor.

A better contender for n*3 would ne nas who's debut album is amongst the 4 only hip hop albums archived by Harvard (eminem isn't in there sorry)

"and not some clown ass rapper that just came out yesterday and y'all praise like f***."

No, the culture choses who they want to uplift, you skipped nas, jay z, outkast, pimp c, Kurupt, Lauryn hill, lil kim, mc lyte, wutang, a tribe called quest, queen Latifah ... to uplift eminem.
All these artist meant something to black kids (the south rising in hip hop, female rappers relating to the struggles of being a black women whilst ya boy was making racist songs about them ("ole foolish pride",), gang culture being documented and shown in its glory and more importantly in its destructive nature, diversity in hip hop culture with Asian and African influences, jazz/soul samples that their parents probably listened to)
hip hop isn't solely a game of numbers (he sold alot now praise him)

"We should be grateful that we can live in the same era as a living legend like Eminem"

No, celebrity worship is a dud besides there are hip hop legends that are dead that mean more to the culture than him alive (tupac's passed decades ago but we still share his interviews during these trying times as his words still ring true)

• he labeled himself the "Elvis of hip hop"
  "I am the worst thing since Elvis Presley
  To do black music so selfishly (hey!)
  And use it to get myself wealthy" from the song "without me"

Well history does have a nasty habit of repeating itself, and today's world still makes it easier for white artists to prosper in a genre that isn't initially their culture.
Eminem is experiencing the sentiment some people had towards Elvis, today. And that's not our fault (paul wall and other white rappers who are down with the culture and didn't shamelessly sell out are still respected till this day)

"Elvis was a hero to most
But he never meant s*** to me you see
Straight up racist that sucker was
Simple and plain" from the song "fight the power" by public enemy.

@DonutHole he actually thinks joyner lucas makes good music, he listed him in his top 10 dead of alive

lol how is he an old head instead of og?

an og is someone who puts the next gen on right?

em just signed 3 of the best rappers out right now (griselda) and that was recent. not to even mention putting on 50 cent

plus he did songs with don toliver, young ma, Joyner, juice wrld,

he's said a bunch of times he has no problem with new rappers, he just wants more rappers out that can rap

he's like the old version of post malone

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