Because they know Mac will never be compared to Nas, Jay-Z, BIG, Pac, Kanye, etc.
He will never be known for his “lyrical prowess” and more he’ll be known more for being a talented musician who passed way too soon
Eminem on the other hand, is in that conversation, and people are trying their hardest to push him out of the conversation because they don’t want a white artist to have a legitimate claim for the GOAT in Hip Hop
So they’d rather prop up Popular Non-lyrical focused artists (Jack Harlow, Mac, Paul Wall, etc.) or underground lyrical acts that will never have the mainstream legendary status or commercial success that someone like HOV has (EL-P, Your Old Droog, Evidence, etc.)
“Mac will never be compared to Nas, Jay-Z, BIG, Pac, Kanye”
Eminem doesn’t compare to them either
Em ain't playing guitar drums bass keys etc and producing for Earl, Vince, Ab-soul, all those guys
since when is music critique objective? no rlly tell me...
Music criticism isnt, but greatness is.
If you think otherwise, go to a gathering of a y sensible people and claim Waka Flocka is the GOAT
duh
bro if u make a thread s***ting on a dead mans music at least provide valid points and not just a well said to whoever agrees with you
I'm not s***ting on his music, he's just not in the GOAT convo
Music criticism isnt, but greatness is.
If you think otherwise, go to a gathering of a y sensible people and claim Waka Flocka is the GOAT
Irrelevant. Stop bringing other artists into this discussion.
Music criticism isnt, but greatness is.
If you think otherwise, go to a gathering of a y sensible people and claim Waka Flocka is the GOAT
People disagreeing doesn’t make your opinion incorrect
not a single one of those people was an artist
thick ass skull on this guy eh 🤣
If you dont understand that a***ogy, then I'm sorry I cant help you
I'm not s***ting on his music, he's just not in the GOAT convo
you said not in the goat WHITE RAPPER
If he's not at least top 10 then drop 10 white rappers with better albums and songwriting skills
mac also produced most of his stuff but since this is a rapping discussion I'll pass on that
Ok so which white boy is after Em? Like you haven't named a single one but you're so offended lmao I don't get it
That's the point though, the only White person in the GOAT convo is Em.
That's why it's so funny
That's the point though, the only White person in the GOAT convo is Em.
That's why it's so funny
People disagreeing doesn’t make your opinion incorrect
Confirmation of greatness is crowd-sourced
Confirmation of greatness is crowd-sourced
It’s not. Thats just a lot of people sharing the same opinion. Doesn’t make someone with a different opinion wrong
“Mac will never be compared to Nas, Jay-Z, BIG, Pac, Kanye”
Eminem doesn’t compare to them either
Eminem is a good rapper and if he didnt make public opinion 70% of his content or at least did it as cleverly as he did in MMLP he'd def be on Jay's and Nas' level
Well I think with Swimming and Circles. Mac surpassed the need for the term "white rapper" and just became an artist.
So technically OP is right in a sense. Because to be called a white rapper is putting you in the same lane as Tom McDonald and that's an insult
It’s not. Thats just a lot of people sharing the same opinion. Doesn’t make someone with a different opinion wrong
That's what greatness is, a consensus of public opinion
That's the point though, the only White person in the GOAT convo is Em.
That's why it's so funny
Oh. Well then whatever. That point wasn't conveyed very well if that's the case lol. For Mac not to even be in the conversation, I just figured you would have a list with multiple names ahead of him.
That's what greatness is, a consensus of public opinion
So basically what you’re saying is follow the crowd or your opinion is wrong.
Let’s be real it’s still Eminem no matter how hard Hal want to fight it, ignore it, or make jokes for ktt likes
The real world is gonna say Eminem and that’s all that matters with this take
There's a reason why Jay Z is unanimously top 5 and Black Thought isnt, despite Thought being a better and more consistent rapper.
Greatness is:
1. Talent
+
2. Influence
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3. Popularity
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4. Longevity
That's why the top 5 list hasn't changed since like 2007, and why y'all had make a new top 3 for Cole and Drake and Kenny, although Kenny and Drake are inching their way into the unanimous top 5
@OP just wants us to realize that Cartman is the GOAT whipe rapper