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  • Oct 5, 2022
    CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    La Haine is tops
    Then the rest

    GOATED !!! I love the characters in La Haine so much

  • Oct 5, 2022
    Elric

    thats not part of

    wild

  • Oct 5, 2022
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    FlyHiii

    My criteria is the main spoken language of the films have to be French (So no Enter The Void even tho it's Noé)

    No order, and also it's not gonna be 10 lol lots of directors where i'm just unable to pick one of their films

    If you look closely you can see your contribution to my kino life somewhere at the bottom rows @elric i mainly post in kino at the moment when i do post, never got the chance to give you your props so here it is

  • Oct 5, 2022
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    RASIE

    I definitely agree that cinema is (and should officially be) considered global media. Though using the director's or performers' nationality, or even the primary language(s) spoken, to define country of origin is a really hit or miss way to go about it since it can get convoluted really quickly. Like Eisenstein spent time making films in Mexico and Italy. Bunuel made films all across Europe. Kiarostami’s final film was made in Japan with French coproduction. The Last Emperor is a film with Chinese actors, directed by an Italian, and solely produced by a British guy. Straub-Huillet are French but made lots of films in German as a conviction to their beliefs regarding language and meaning.

    Offically, in the industry, country of origin just comes down to production/primary distributors. It’s why there are countless films that are “French-Spanish-American coproductions” et. al, where multiple countries across the globe are resposible for the film being made and released — and you can say a French-British film is “a French film” because of that. Femme Fatale is an example that was in my list as well: co-production between France and an Iranian producer, the former of which was responsible for most of the backing due to the film’s setting, locations, and major plot scenario taking place at Cannes Film Fest. (Also releasing theatrically across Europe months before it came to the U.S.)

    But then you have films like F for Fake, which was produced and initially distributed exclusively by French backers during Welles' extended stay in Europe after nobody in America would touch, let alone fund any of his projects. Fake began as an assignment where Welles was hired by a French director to make a documentary about the charlatan de Hory, and ended up with the French filmmaker’s footage being edited into additonal sequences directed by Welles and shot by the French filmmaker. The film didn't even release in the US until 2 whole years after it first premiered in French theaters.

    When it comes to categorizing films by country, I just stick with the industry’s relatively straightforward standard. It’s often messy itself with the number of international co-productions, but it’s easier than parsing the nationalities of the directors, performers, and languages, which can be wildly different, especially when watching things outside of Hollywood’s influence.

    That’s a pretty strong and clear argument in favor of going by distributor! And interesting history to get caught up on w F for Fake specifically, so thank you for that. I do think there should be room to specifically spotlight movies w multinational production frameworks

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    FlyHiii

    If you look closely you can see your contribution to my kino life somewhere at the bottom rows @elric i mainly post in kino at the moment when i do post, never got the chance to give you your props so here it is

    You enjoyed Joan?

  • Oct 5, 2022
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    Elric

    You enjoyed Joan?

    Hell yeah its in my list for a reason, not sure which of the 100 versions i watched though it was a few months ago, makes me wanna revisit Sunrise to see if the score goes up even more

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    Oct 5, 2022
    Einfinet

    That’s a pretty strong and clear argument in favor of going by distributor! And interesting history to get caught up on w F for Fake specifically, so thank you for that. I do think there should be room to specifically spotlight movies w multinational production frameworks

    There are definitely outliers in it though. Like Straub-Huillet self-produced a lot of their work. So is a film thats shot in italy with german and hebrew dialogue a "French film" just because French directors produced it themselves?

    In those cases i feel like it just makes the most sense to call it a truly "independent" production haha. No country of origin — basically the definition of cinema being a global thing. And of course there's the recent development of crowd funding. Def no country of origin there if we go by producers.

    But these are few and far between compared to how mixed the backgrounds of people behind and infront of the camera can be

  • Oct 5, 2022
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    FlyHiii

    Hell yeah its in my list for a reason, not sure which of the 100 versions i watched though it was a few months ago, makes me wanna revisit Sunrise to see if the score goes up even more

    You think Joan might be the gateway d*** into the true dust for you then your doubt was strong

  • Oct 5, 2022
    Elric

    You think Joan might be the gateway d*** into the true dust for you then your doubt was strong

    I mean i guess that its true that i will always be mainly a contemporary guy given how much i feel like technical improvements can benefit film but youre right i was a bit too stubborn and i should explore a bit more in the silent era

  • Oct 5, 2022
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    Elric

    @FlyHiii ignoring it

    you're ignoring my melville offer

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    dundis

    you're ignoring my melville offer

    Rec Swap Thread is now a thing in Kino more reason for you to re-join @Elric

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    The young girls of rochefort (1987)
    A single girl (1995)
    Tomboy (2011)
    A woman is a woman (1961)
    400 blows (1958)
    Four adventures of reinette & mirabelle (1987)
    Raw (2016)

    Gonna add a bunch of movies from this thread to my watchlist

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    Everest

    The young girls of rochefort (1987)
    A single girl (1995)
    Tomboy (2011)
    A woman is a woman (1961)
    400 blows (1958)
    Four adventures of reinette & mirabelle (1987)
    Raw (2016)

    Gonna add a bunch of movies from this thread to my watchlist

    reinette & mirabelle is one of the best rohmers

  • Oct 5, 2022
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    dundis

    reinette & mirabelle is one of the best rohmers

    I’ve only seen that one and a summers tale but I love his style, which ones do you think are essentials???

  • Oct 5, 2022
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    dundis

    you're ignoring my melville offer

    Right yeah sorry it was a little confusing I would watch it regardless of any agreement let alone 25 bucks

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    Elric

    Right yeah sorry it was a little confusing I would watch it regardless of any agreement let alone 25 bucks

    this is pure noir, le samouraï is a different breed that is different from his other stuff. i understand why u dont f*** with that one

    this adheres way more to the american style. belmondo bringing the mike hammer vibes from kiss me deadly

    but if u watch le doulos ima gonna need another rec

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    FlyHiii

    Rec Swap Thread is now a thing in Kino more reason for you to re-join @Elric

    Well considering your method of waiting forever to watch then not even telling me what you thought about my recs is deeply unsatisfying how about you just watch a couple films from each year as we go through the Best Films Of Each Year thread you'll have plenty of time. Vampyr up next and you gotta see it.

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    Elric
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    Well considering your method of waiting forever to watch then not even telling me what you thought about my recs is deeply unsatisfying how about you just watch a couple films from each year as we go through the Best Films Of Each Year thread you'll have plenty of time. Vampyr up next and you gotta see it.

    I am in your debt and will gladly watch a couple more recs first before we straight on that, don’t make me beg and kiss your feet as well mf Scavenger Hunt starts tomorrow and i’ll better see you there

    Then you can also drop your next dusty recs in the Rec Swap Thread there

  • Oct 5, 2022
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    dundis

    this is pure noir, le samouraï is a different breed that is different from his other stuff. i understand why u dont f*** with that one

    this adheres way more to the american style. belmondo bringing the mike hammer vibes from kiss me deadly

    but if u watch le doulos ima gonna need another rec

    Be easier if you just went through here and found something appetizing that you haven't seen yet

    g.o.a.t. boxd.it/D6u6

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    Elric

    Be easier if you just went through here and found something appetizing that you haven't seen yet

    g.o.a.t. https://boxd.it/D6u6

    damn I've seen 106 out of 153, so not bad

    the ones that interest me the most are the mizoguchis (been lacking heavily there) and all that heaven allows.

    as far as mizoguchi goes I've only seen streets of shame which is his last, but it gave me enough info to understand what a lot of his films deal about (like his sister being sold as a geisha and prostitution in japan in general and how that affected his filmmaking).

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    dundis

    damn I've seen 106 out of 153, so not bad

    the ones that interest me the most are the mizoguchis (been lacking heavily there) and all that heaven allows.

    as far as mizoguchi goes I've only seen streets of shame which is his last, but it gave me enough info to understand what a lot of his films deal about (like his sister being sold as a geisha and prostitution in japan in general and how that affected his filmmaking).

    Yeah Streets Of Shame was potent but definitely won't prepare you for how absurdly exquisite the Oharu/Ugetsu/Sansho holy trinity is do those then and I'll just carry on with Melville slowly

  • RASIE 🦦
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    Everest

    I’ve only seen that one and a summers tale but I love his style, which ones do you think are essentials???

    Perceval
    A Tale of Winter
    The Green Ray
    Full Moon in Paris
    La Collectioneuse
    My Night at Maud's

  • Oct 5, 2022
    Elric

    Yeah Streets Of Shame was potent but definitely won't prepare you for how absurdly exquisite the Oharu/Ugetsu/Sansho holy trinity is do those then and I'll just carry on with Melville slowly

    in that order? aight u got it

    if you're doing melville chronologically just know that bob le flambeur was a big inspiration for ya boy PTA when he made hard eight

    the goat went too soon

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    RASIE

    Perceval
    A Tale of Winter
    The Green Ray
    Full Moon in Paris
    La Collectioneuse
    My Night at Maud's

    watching the green ray was like getting gut punched over and over. those anxiety attacks were too real marie rivière killed it

  • RASIE 🦦
    Oct 5, 2022
    dundis

    watching the green ray was like getting gut punched over and over. those anxiety attacks were too real marie rivière killed it

    Vibe cinema