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  • Jan 21, 2023
    La Zezta Trez

    What he say ? he work for young Turks

    I doubt he would be openly racist

    this is big isn't he a democrat how could he be racist energy lmao dude we can't evaluate people, especially white people (in regards to racial issues), on their membership in organizations we need to evaluate them based on their actions especially recent ones

    also history and membership doesn't mean anything look up Bayard Rustin

  • Jan 21, 2023

    Blues was inspired by slave songs and gospel what

  • Being forced to assimilate to western culture isn’t the same as appropriating Destiny is a f***in moron

  • Jan 21, 2023

    @op racist

  • Jan 21, 2023
    Tvmim

    I think you got him mixed up with Hasan who worked at Young Turks

    You right I got all those YouTubers mixed up wit each other

    their friends tho so I was close

  • Jan 21, 2023
    La Zezta Trez

    Idk about jazz but I really never heard any classical music influence outside of a sample in hip hop

    https://twitter.com/TheOmniLiberal/status/1614773667493281792https://twitter.com/TheOmniLiberal/status/1614780546428592128

    This is weird because he debated a caller recently who was arguing this and he was laughing at him for sounding stupid

  • Jan 21, 2023
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    Peter E

    there's a concerted effort to quiet any real allegations of cultural appropriation by saying "everyone steals from each other", when clearly in the western world it's black culture (and broadly, poc) that get stolen from and don't see the fruits of their labor and foundations while the appropriators gain all the clout, and more importantly, the $$$

    I think there are also good examples of culture being integrated into another culture vs just being used for profit with no regard for the history

  • Jan 21, 2023
    Peter E

    also by doing this they try to erase/rewrite rap music's roots and history effectively, as if there isn't a rich tradition of black music in america that comes from slaves and hymns (that comes from africa)... rap music is specifically black music that comes from a black (and working class) context!

    not to say anyone can't make it or you gotta be one of those things, obviously i'm literally a brown rapper, but objectively that's where it comes from whether you mean the roots pre rap music or the inception of rap music in the bronx

    I’m doing a dive into the history

    Just to find out the first recorded jazz song was by these white guys

  • Jan 21, 2023
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    99% copied is insane considering that there are west african musical genres predating colonialism that show clear lineage to african American musical genres

    Especially rhythmically

  • Jan 21, 2023

    So who's willing to represent KTT2 on the live debate with him

  • Jan 21, 2023
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    Maartins
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    99% copied is insane considering that there are west african musical genres predating colonialism that show clear lineage to african American musical genres

    Especially rhythmically

    Yeah the use of complex rhythms and polyrhythms from West Africa is an inherent part of spirituals and work songs which inspired blues and so on

    Also the “call and response” pattern of blues comes from music of Africa too

  • Gojira 🦖
    Jan 21, 2023

    stop listening to youtubers

  • Jan 21, 2023
    ragedsycokiller

    I think there are also good examples of culture being integrated into another culture vs just being used for profit with no regard for the history

    i don't disagree it's just about (as cliche and tumblr-y as i may sound) showing respect for the culture and being aware of your privilege. you can't change your color or privilege in life, and that's ok, but are you willing to use it to shine a light on those who don't have it? are you willing to use it to give back MATERIALLY to those who don't have it? i think if you can do those things and know/respect the history of the genre and the culture, you'll be fine and be more than accepted

    jack harlow makes very white music and i'm not gonna pretend like i listen honestly, but he at least clearly cares about rap music even if its bare minimum s*** and so no one gets upset at him for that because its genuine.

    people have a problem with those dipping their toe in rap music only when they show they don't care and are there for nothing but profit. i also don't listen to eminem but no one really gets mad at eminem or sees him as a vulture

  • Jan 21, 2023
    Maartins

    99% copied is insane considering that there are west african musical genres predating colonialism that show clear lineage to african American musical genres

    Especially rhythmically

    !!!!!!! yup

    and those slave hymns and such that inspired and eventually indirectly lead to rap music intrinsically have the rhythmic dna of the african cultures the first slaves were part of before being kidnapped

  • Jan 21, 2023

    Loud and wrong.

    And probably white.

  • Jan 21, 2023
    Zaywop

    "I've sent you pictures of my d*** plz respond."

  • Jan 21, 2023

    lock thread ban op

  • Jan 21, 2023
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    maxxing

    Yeah the use of complex rhythms and polyrhythms from West Africa is an inherent part of spirituals and work songs which inspired blues and so on

    Also the “call and response” pattern of blues comes from music of Africa too

    Bozo thinks cus they use instruments popularized in europe that the genre becomes 99% classical European when the actual innate qualities of the music are unique to the culture

    Horrible take

  • Jan 21, 2023

    Beethoven to NWA doesn’t compute

  • Jan 21, 2023
    Maartins

    Bozo thinks cus they use instruments popularized in europe that the genre becomes 99% classical European when the actual innate qualities of the music are unique to the culture

    Horrible take

    exactly swing comes from africa

  • Jan 21, 2023
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    La Zezta Trez

    What he say ? he work for young Turks

    I doubt he would be openly racist

    i’m pretty sure i’ve seen clips from his streams of him saying some weird stuff

    plus he is friends with that nick dude that kanye is sucking off

  • Jan 21, 2023
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    This take has the same energy as those white YouTubers that would use the n word cause otherwise they’d be “giving the word more power”

  • Jan 21, 2023

    Its the other way around i am from germany and they be stealing everything from the us

  • Jan 21, 2023
    Scatt

    i’m pretty sure i’ve seen clips from his streams of him saying some weird stuff

    plus he is friends with that nick dude that kanye is sucking off

    that nick guy is a self identified christian white nationalist btw

  • Jan 21, 2023
    Smoofer

    This take has the same energy as those white YouTubers that would use the n word cause otherwise they’d be “giving the word more power”

    that was a wild era how did niggas let that s*** slide