Don’t worry man it’s just the beginning dnt despair

I found a paper i wrote 5 years ago when i was in the 10th grade during his first run. Talking about what a 15$ min wage means to me from seeing my moms struggling, being an immigrant and understanding why we need rights etc

Bernie woke up smth in millions of people man and that’s not gonna go away. In 5 years he single handledly built the largest progressive voting movement in all of modern American history. He didnt get there this time but it will happen.

It means too much to so many

i agree

time heals all. people dont give a f*** about that anymore sadly. they see him give michelle obama some candy and now it’s all good

The fact that Trump isn't down 20 points in the polls, despite his disastrous response to COVID-19, the crashing economy and now nationwide unrest let's you know how racist this country is

Interestingly enough, there was a very bad poll for Biden in Pennsylvania out today (he's down 4), and two others that are ehh in Michigan and Wisconsin. But he also got very good polls in Arizona, Florida, Texas, and North Carolina.

It would be very interesting if he ended up winning without winning Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, or Michigan.

Gotta say, the Pennsylvania poll surprised me the most. I'm still kind of shocked that even Hillary managed to lose it in 2016. It's such a diverse state. Hard to see it as being a GOP leaning place.

It’s a big state, and there are long, wide stretches of straight Pennsylvania trash. It’s kind of like Ohio in that it literally contains part of the country’s Northern most border, yet there are still large pockets of people that think they’re straight up rednecks. You might see a confederate flag in parts of Northern PA.

Unrelated, but I’ll also pile on that PA is a bottom-5 state to drive through.

I don’t think that would be the case.

Trump supporters who already claim Bush is part of the deep state would use this as more evidence that the deep state is trying their hardest to take Trump down. It would likely rile those guys up.

People far on the left would use it as evidence that Biden is more of a centrist than a liberal.

But, those groups are the fringes and don’t make up the general electorate. Independent voters and republicans that don’t love Trump may be swayed by a GWB endorsement. Also I think Bush is loved in Texas, and if he campaigned for Biden in Texas could potentially flip the state blue which would be a nightmare scenario for Trump.

Wow, Fox News dropped some insane polls for Biden in Arizona and Wisconsin tonight. Along with Kelly destroying in the Senate race in Arizona.

I'd imagine that Dems are wishing that the election was going to be held this month. 5 months is a long time

I noticed that too, though they all seem to be from the same polling company (CNBC), and seem to be outliers compared to the rest of the data. It's the first poll we've had in Penn in months though, so it's definitely interesting.

Exactly the movement is still going strong

In Pennsylvania every single candidate endorsed by Bernie won

All this s*** gonna be a layup for trump campaign tbh

If the left tries to come at him for the spread of the virus, he can just say “then why were you advocating for these protests where thousands of people were all in close proximity of each other”

If they try to use the economy argument against him, then he can just say that he was trying to reopen businesses but the left was pushing back, and the people in the riots were the ones destroying a bunch of minority-owned small businesses

Imagine if the DNC didn’t f*** over Bernie two elections in a row

someone made a good and unfortunate point on twitter. if the coronavirus cases do not spike after these protests, no one will ever have a reason to believe legit any public official for the rest of eternity, further equating laws in this country as basically being useless. if coronaviruses do spike, then the entire social distancing & business closure regulations were essentially completely useless. it's a tough position to be in since most right wingers (at least officials)have been harshly anti-lockdown to begin with.

This is a good point, almost like a paradox. And I hate trump as president but it’s confusing to me when some people blame him for both the crashing economy and his corona response.

Do you want to stop the spread of the virus (by locking down businesses and forcing people out of work)?

Or do you want a successful economy (which requires opening businesses and possibly exposing more people to the virus)?

It’s just like... pick one of the two, you can’t have both

state governments are def as much if not more to blame than trump imo (even now), but as the figurehead of the country and as a public idiot, it's far easier to defer blame to him. it's the same largely now with these police protests. states - including supposedly "progressive" ones like california or washington - could have passed individual police reforms years ago, but they didn't. Trump didn't make anything legally worse with police offers, he just became a national-level mouthpiece for pre-existing rhetoric. the federal government's blame lies elsewhere, people really need to start actually blaming state governments for s***.

Ehh idk. I think you're looking at it too methodically, like this is some high school debate competition where the President is elected via whoever scores the most points.

Vast majority of people vote based on how they "feel" about the candidates and about the current situation of the country. We'll see how things go, but as of right now the public generally has a very low opinion of Trump and a pretty average opinion of Biden. And they are not happy with the current state of the country.

I disagree.

Any push back against the protests is gonna be way too tight a rope to walk. And there's a pretty easy, instantaneous retort in the White House's unwillingness to acknowledge and deal with it, not to mention then resorting to excessive force.

Regarding the spread of the virus, again it should be very easy to simply point out the abundance of indecisiveness and inaction by Trump, not to mention his denial and manipulation of its severity.

And again on the economy he's pretty crushed. Delay and inadequate response to the threat of coronavirus led to excess unemployment and made economic recovery twice as hard. Not to mention the lack of a solid support system in the first place to help people bear the brunt of the economic damage. Which they can easily point out was a factor that was forecasted early enough and should have been prepared for.

I mean two things can be true at once. You can put serious measures in place early enough to mitigate the spread and have an economy which is in a legitimate position to bounce back without further ruinous risk to life.

Ultimately, this 'response' has been ridiculously weak and highlighted inadequate leadership.

I didn't really follow this. Coronavirus cases will undoubtedly spike. There's absolutely no way in which they don't.

And you said that if they do, then social distancing and businesses closing will be useless? Again, not really following on that. Social distancing is a proven mitigation method, just because its not been enforced or carried out adequately doesn't mean it was useless. If cases do spike then surely it points to its importance, given lock down measures have been widespread lifted.

I'm not necessarily saying that the methods of social distancing & business closures themselves were/are inherently bad or ineffective moves.
I'm more saying from a political standpoint, if after all of that sacrifice and societal change, if the protests cause coronaviruses cases to spike significantly, the political discussion surrounding coronavirus case numbers will be able to say that everything done was essentially in vain, since the spike at the end cancels out the prior months efforts of eliminating spikes

Right I see what you're saying now. But I mean the sacrifice and societal change was so halfheartedly implemented and enforced in certain places that it was bound to fail, combined with a rush to lift measures and widespread dismissiveness of it as a threat. Ultimately not enough was done and its danger is amplified. Its pretty much a self-fulfilling prophecy.

While there is some merit to what you're saying, its letting Trump off way to easy. He has reversed a number of policies designed to limit the police.

nytimes.com/2017/08/28/us/politics/trump-police-military-surplus-equipment.html

nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/04/sessions-moves-to-roll-back-obama-era-police-reforms.html

nytimes.com/2018/11/08/us/politics/sessions-limits-consent-decrees.html

These were all Obama measures that Trump and Sessions pretty much immediately undid or blocked. Mild measures yes, but steps in the right direction nonetheless.