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  • Jun 5, 2020
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    krishna bound

    someone made a good and unfortunate point on twitter. if the coronavirus cases do not spike after these protests, no one will ever have a reason to believe legit any public official for the rest of eternity, further equating laws in this country as basically being useless. if coronaviruses do spike, then the entire social distancing & business closure regulations were essentially completely useless. it's a tough position to be in since most right wingers (at least officials)have been harshly anti-lockdown to begin with.

    can you clarify what you mean on how social distancing would be seen as useless if we see a spike in cases resulting from the protests?
    edit: just saw you answered all ready

  • Jun 5, 2020
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    DwindlingSun

    While there is some merit to what you're saying, its letting Trump off way to easy. He has reversed a number of policies designed to limit the police.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/28/us/politics/trump-police-military-surplus-equipment.html

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/04/sessions-moves-to-roll-back-obama-era-police-reforms.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/08/us/politics/sessions-limits-consent-decrees.html

    These were all Obama measures that Trump and Sessions pretty much immediately undid or blocked. Mild measures yes, but steps in the right direction nonetheless.

    I hadn’t seen this stuff so you’re right there is definitely blame to be had there. However I still think with how state governments have functioned, even as far as blatantly ignoring federal law this past decade (California, colorado), the federal government is increasingly vestigial regardless of what they pass. I really think we’re increasingly in the era of states being their own beholders

  • Jun 5, 2020
    krishna bound

    I hadn’t seen this stuff so you’re right there is definitely blame to be had there. However I still think with how state governments have functioned, even as far as blatantly ignoring federal law this past decade (California, colorado), the federal government is increasingly vestigial regardless of what they pass. I really think we’re increasingly in the era of states being their own beholders

    Yeah that's certainly fair to an extent

  • Jun 5, 2020

    I knew that people would get in their feelings about Biden's "10-15 are not very good people" comment.

    But honestly, he did not go anywhere NEAR far enough with it lmfao. It's way higher than 15% of people in the US that are racist pieces of s*** if we're being real here.

  • Jun 6, 2020
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    I was just looking through some governor races in November and I read up on Vermont's governor Phil Scott, who is a Republican.

    I see some people online say that it's because Vermont likes to have a balance of Bernie style progressives with conservatives...how does that make any sense? They have completely different views on government

    Make it sound like they're trying to bake a cake with just the right amount of salt and sugar or some s***

  • Jun 6, 2020
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    Alright imaginary scenario time

    Dwayne The Rock Johnson runs 3rd party.

    He runs on an economic platform similar to Bernie Sanders and a socially Libertarian platform.

    Promises a UBI, free college, legalization of all d**** at the federal level, legalization of immigration, prison reform, increased taxes on the rich, 0% income tax on people making below $60k with a Federal sales tax on nonessential items.

  • Jun 6, 2020
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    Also what if counterfeit money was legalized? I was thinking about this the other day and have never seen a discussion on it before. Money has value because you assume it does, and many who accidentally accept counterfeit money assume it has value. The only reason it doesn’t is because banks won’t accept it and it’s illegal.

    But how would an economy respond if counterfeit was legalized? In this scenario banks still will not accept counterfeit money, but it coils be used to buy goods and services (presumably not from corporations).

  • Jun 6, 2020
    Theory

    Alright imaginary scenario time

    Dwayne The Rock Johnson runs 3rd party.

    He runs on an economic platform similar to Bernie Sanders and a socially Libertarian platform.

    Promises a UBI, free college, legalization of all d**** at the federal level, legalization of immigration, prison reform, increased taxes on the rich, 0% income tax on people making below $60k with a Federal sales tax on nonessential items.

    would probably vote for trump if this was the case

  • Jun 7, 2020

    Decided I am voting straight ticket Dem. i always have to be fair but was considering not. texas needs to go blue (not that my vote changes s***)

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    At this rate if the Democrats would have nominated a Capuchin monkey against Trump I would vote for it

  • Jun 7, 2020

    I feel the current of bernie people has swung bidens way

    This senile corrupt mf is so lucky that the fabrics of American society seem to be literally falling apart

    A month ago i would hv said abstain from the presidential ticket, vote down ballot or third party but i cnt say that in good faith rn

    Wtf is in trumps brain man. You guys saw him rt that tweet attacking floyd. F***ing rich sociopathic mf. Doesnt have a single empathetic bone in his body

  • Jun 7, 2020
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    Theory

    Also what if counterfeit money was legalized? I was thinking about this the other day and have never seen a discussion on it before. Money has value because you assume it does, and many who accidentally accept counterfeit money assume it has value. The only reason it doesn’t is because banks won’t accept it and it’s illegal.

    But how would an economy respond if counterfeit was legalized? In this scenario banks still will not accept counterfeit money, but it coils be used to buy goods and services (presumably not from corporations).

    A separate currency to be used strictly amongst the people?

  • Jun 7, 2020
    Young D

    I was just looking through some governor races in November and I read up on Vermont's governor Phil Scott, who is a Republican.

    I see some people online say that it's because Vermont likes to have a balance of Bernie style progressives with conservatives...how does that make any sense? They have completely different views on government

    Make it sound like they're trying to bake a cake with just the right amount of salt and sugar or some s***

    This is probably an issue with a lot of places in America

  • Jun 7, 2020
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    Pedro

    A separate currency to be used strictly amongst the people?

    That’s kind of what I was thinking. Like, if I gave you a $20 bill and you didn’t know it was counterfeit then it’s still worth $20 to you. It would put the production of money into the hands of the people but how would that really work? I’m guessing the ultimate economic response would be that the money would become worthless because everybody could print what they need lol

  • Jun 7, 2020
    Theory

    That’s kind of what I was thinking. Like, if I gave you a $20 bill and you didn’t know it was counterfeit then it’s still worth $20 to you. It would put the production of money into the hands of the people but how would that really work? I’m guessing the ultimate economic response would be that the money would become worthless because everybody could print what they need lol

    and that money would only be able to be spent within the circle of people accepting it, so you'd pretty much be f***ed unless your landlord also accepted it lol

  • Jun 8, 2020
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    This nigga shootin like Kobe rn. Any time he say some dumb s*** he bounce back and hits with ether to energize his base and point out left winged stupidity. How is the u.s. letting this happen

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    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1269634983687315457

    This nigga shootin like Kobe rn. Any time he say some dumb s*** he bounce back and hits with ether to energize his base and point out left winged stupidity. How is the u.s. letting this happen

    Rn he’s like king cop so it doesn’t really matter, he’s more unpopular than biden

  • Jun 8, 2020

    The truth is, these endorsements of moderate republicans doesn’t really hurt biden, all the public is getting from this is “wow, trump is so bad even his party is rejecting him”

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    Enpax

    Rn he’s like king cop so it doesn’t really matter, he’s more unpopular than biden

    unpopular to the american public, yes. Not to voters

  • Jun 8, 2020
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    Durkio World

    unpopular to the american public, yes. Not to voters

    He’s doing even worse in the polls now than he was a couple weeks ago, and even then he was down

  • Jun 8, 2020
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    Enpax

    He’s doing even worse in the polls now than he was a couple weeks ago, and even then he was down

    Polls also said he'd lose in a landslide in 2016 and he won.

  • Jun 8, 2020
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    Durkio World

    Polls also said he'd lose in a landslide in 2016 and he won.

    No they didn’t, they’d said he’d lose by a couple points then he lost by a couple million in the popular vote. I will admit, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin had hillary winning, but in many cases the lead wasn’t as large as it is now

  • Jun 8, 2020
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    Enpax

    No they didn’t, they’d said he’d lose by a couple points then he lost by a couple million in the popular vote. I will admit, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin had hillary winning, but in many cases the lead wasn’t as large as it is now

    Every argument pointing out trump losing comes from an inconsistent framework that doesn't understand trump's appeal. This same framework exists today and is exactly why people can't understand everything going on only helps trump. When he wins again the excuses will pile up.

  • Jun 8, 2020
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    Durkio World

    Every argument pointing out trump losing comes from an inconsistent framework that doesn't understand trump's appeal. This same framework exists today and is exactly why people can't understand everything going on only helps trump. When he wins again the excuses will pile up.

    When trump won last election, I wasn’t particularly shocked or anything, I was one of the few around me who thought he had a strong chance of winning. I understand his appeal to people who feel ignored by career politicians. But the facts are hillary was one of the most unpopular candidates in history which largely fueled his win. Biden isn’t particularly well liked either but he lacks the large hatedom that surrounded hillary, and won the rust belt states in the primary in a way that shows very strong support in that region. If Biden wins those states + Arizona he’s gonna win the election. I’m not saying trump is definitely gonna lose, but it’s unlikely he wins this time

  • Jun 8, 2020
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    Enpax

    When trump won last election, I wasn’t particularly shocked or anything, I was one of the few around me who thought he had a strong chance of winning. I understand his appeal to people who feel ignored by career politicians. But the facts are hillary was one of the most unpopular candidates in history which largely fueled his win. Biden isn’t particularly well liked either but he lacks the large hatedom that surrounded hillary, and won the rust belt states in the primary in a way that shows very strong support in that region. If Biden wins those states + Arizona he’s gonna win the election. I’m not saying trump is definitely gonna lose, but it’s unlikely he wins this time

    Biden is pretty much unliked and the recent riots show this. He's also not going to max out the black vote the way obama did. Biden hasn't proven to be viable enough in the midwest the way trump was. In order for biden to do that he must act as a populist and reject a lot of s*** dems want to prioritize.

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