The basics of white supremacy comes from the fact that minorities, mainly black people are thought of as lesser than them, agreed? This comes from decades of minorities being segregated into disadvantaged communities and told to survive without any resources and thus forced to commit crimes to even simply live and then in these white supremacy communities the minorities are seen as criminals and lesser humans. If you advance people in disadvantaged communities and give them resources and opportunities to become better people they will in time and this line of thinking may change. Have faith in humanity

Your comment is proving my point. The implication you're going for is "why would an old techie like bezos do something as tough and dangerous as armed robbery?"

It's only tough and dangerous because the law exists. Take that away, and physical robbery is no more difficult than exploitation mediated through a massive company.

Again, I already talked this through with Synopsis. I (maybe) agree that, given enough time, white supremacy could be "unlearned" by society.

The issue is- how many lynchings happen in the interim? How many people die while we wait for a****** racists to educate themselves and stop being a****** racists?

At this point I would say you should maybe read the literature on such topics

Yeah, if poorer communities got the funding they needed, crime would go down significantly. But accounting for every variable like that, there are still some people that enjoy victimizing others. So why not give the poorer communities the funding they need, while reforming the police force to be more in tune with the communities they serve, rather than relying on people to defend themselves from strangers

My friend, if you don't have answers to intuitive, obvious issues like "how do I stop a racist from lynching me" .. no amount of literature can save you.

I'm not saying you don't have an answer, I'm just saying it's not clear to me what it is.

If you got rid of police tomorrow do you think a bunch of middle class ppl are gonna be going around committing armed robbery

There's no point in arguing with him lol

Let's drop this thread of conversation for now because it's going nowhere. Talk to me about the more pressing issue of crimes motivated by the violent hierarchies/oppression that exists in society rn.

How would you stop a racist from lynching you rn

Nah he's a smart guy, I'll wait this one out

No he's not, but that's just me

The threat of prison. I agreed with you already that some people go through with it regardless.

But that brought me to my second point which you didn't answer. If crimes like lynchings are inevitable in both worlds (a world of lawlessness for white people and a world without it) ... why is your system better than anyone else's?

Cool, the cops go away. If the result is random racists taking their place, I'm not sure what you've accomplished.

In fact, the usual yarn Synopsis et al spin about how the KKK, slave patrols, etc. --> police is pretty much an admission of this.

Yep this right here.
Most of Europe has these requirements.
I don't think a college degree is necessary in EU but there are a bunch of tests that you need to pass.
Not everyone can become a police officer.

I cant get over how you are always stirring s*** in political threads and tell people to read theory and then you just drop "give everyone food" as a serious policy solution without batting an eye. Like damn why aint anyone thought of that idea in the last 50000 years

How do you expect people to police themselves when they've allowed this government to run the way it has?

Bribing yourself out of crimes would be at an all time high.

You must have a lot of faith in your fellow man if you trust us to police ourselves. I bet you don't even trust people to vote for the right candidate. Why would you rely on them to police a community?

Cops should be forced to take coursework in history, anthropology, social work, and humanitarian and racial studies. If you're serving the people, you should learn a thing or two about them.

Prospective teachers have that content embedded into their coursework so their lesson plans will be on point. If you're carrying a gun, you shouldn't be ignorant.

I'll assume you're meaning lynchings as any racially motivated crime.

First, you have to restructure the value system of society. And you talk about "how long will this take?" I dont know but I do know there has been stories of kkk members renouncing their views because a black man befriended them. If we don't live in a society that normalizes white supremacy at every turn then who knows what results we might see. My system is better because it eliminates the institutions that do that.

Do you think I believe ppl aren't influenced by systemic factors

Yup. Now imagine that with the local 'community watch' aka the new non-police. Some smart ass will surely find a way to loophole and abuse it, just like what happens now in the gov't.

This is a Synopsis thread now 💯😎

Oh no they certainly have thought of it

So maybe now we should question why haven't they done it

fam come on you can't ask people to base their arguments in research and theory and then link 'autostraddle.com' to back your incredibly utopian (to put it nicely) arguments?

like how do we possibly construct "communities who have resourced themselves both materially and psychologically and are well equipped to care for each other and themselves, such that what police purport to offer isn’t needed" under existing class hierarchies?