How about we just get rid of the guns for f***s sake
Guns don't kill people. But tbh it's a start.
Idk about getting rid of guns completely tho especially in America.
Maybe military personnel only but then any cop is gonna get lit up, keeping it 100.
People talking about community run police forget that the most famous "community police officer" in the country is George Zimmerman...
Crazy how every police law expert prescribes genuine reform and bes just scream abolish police and say youre dumb if you disagree
Ok hear me out let's abolish police then replace them with police but we call em something different because I'm afraid of actual reform and want something to be radical about
I'm not sure about abolishing the police but radical reform is at least necessary right now. Cops should not have weapons on them while on patrol. Only special designated units should have weapons and I would even go as far as saying it should be "non-lethal" weapons that shoot rubber bullets and should only be sent out for violent crimes.
Massive cuts to the budget is absolutely necessary though. Allocate the extra funds into poor communities/public education and maybe violent crime will go down.
https://www.mpd150.com/wp-content/themes/mpd150/assets/faq_zine.pdf
Read this. It lists some good points but does fail to mention how we rid the world of rapists and pedophiles since that’s more of a psychological issue than a need to survive issue. We would still need somebody contact in case of a violent crime imo.
Advancing people with education and employment should rid the world of crimes like theft, robbery and hopefully gang shootings in general thus lessening the need for police. But do we want to get rid of them completely?
What I think is that we dramatically defund, demilitarize and change their roles and basically only use them on a necessity basis rather than the first people we call. I do not agree with eliminating prisons in this scenario since we will need them for the violent criminals.
Some perspective as well:
Chicago in 2018 alone spent 118 million taxpayer dollars on police misconduct lawsuits, where else could that money have gone?
I will listen and respect all different viewpoints and won’t insult people that disagree with my main point like other users in this section. If there’s already a thread with this topic please merge ty.
Its a difficult question to answer tbh, and I agree that their needs to be some sort of state organisation in place to at least monitor violent and s***crimes.
One question - you mentioned having a system in place where the police no longer function as the automatic first port of call for crime (or at least non-violent crime). In practice what would be the alternative solution to say, a non violent burglary?
You could potentially replace material goods through insurance, although these fees would obviously sky rocket if it was accepted that burglary wasn’t pursued as a crime. But what if a family pet is taken during the incident?
Yea man s*** like this will absolutely never happen if it interests you to see a world without police read/write a utopian novel or something
How about we just get rid of the guns for f***s sake
there would still be murders and crime lol, but yes that is a step for america
there would still be murders and crime lol, but yes that is a step for america
Of course there would still be crimes. But the guns are obviously a huge problem
Should be like how Watchmen (HBO) had it. Where the police have their guns locked in place, and have to message dispatch for them to unlock it depending on the situation.
Guns don't kill people. But tbh it's a start.
Idk about getting rid of guns completely tho especially in America.
Maybe military personnel only but then any cop is gonna get lit up, keeping it 100.
Guns don't kill people
Bombs don't kill people
Guns don't kill people
Bombs don't kill people
Im saying we live in a hyper violent society already. Remember the cold war. Just the threat of our violence calmed everybody down to look towards a different means of competition.
if we get rid of guns we gotta get rid of everything else above guns as well and make sure they never come back into existence.
that's tough.
People talking about community run police forget that the most famous "community police officer" in the country is George Zimmerman...
OP was tryna instill hope for a better future here.