First, I would have to imagine the number of men who become so enraged that they murder their wives upon learning they want a divorce is low. Second, as I've said many times, punishment has not been a successful deterrent. There are numerous studies that indicate this.

If someone murders their wife in that sort of violent rage, which as I said probably isn't too common, then the police cannot prevent the crime anyways. So the only thing you'd need them for hypothetically is to detain the citizen and bring him to jail. Well, there's no reason that a group of elected citizens or trained de-escalation, mental health, and trauma experts can't supervise his home as he awaits his trial, and then there's no reason they wouldn't be able to detain him and bring him to a rehab facility of some sorts if found guilty.

This this this

It’s absolutely a bizarre career

That mixes legal and critical thinking skills that people do 4 yrs of college and 3 yrs of law school to acquire but also slightly blue collar/technical work

The common denominator for sure tho that at its base it’s too low paying in smaller cities and too easy to become one

Whole government needs reconstruction tbh.

I like this

Especially the first a lot of these guys have highschool educations and not to be elitist but college degrees in humanities and social sciences and philosophiy teach you good communication, a***ytical and critical thinking skills and from the way these guys act it just looks like they’re used to solving everything with force and violence

Now ask yourself why anyone with those majors would ever become a police officer, and tell me how this does anything to address racism within the police force? people in the social sciences still harbor thoughts of bigotry.

the education one always gets me. like, white supremacy is embedded into our education system as well. it's literally the most liberal of all liberal solutions lol. education, education, education. if something fails, just educate!

At it’s current status sure, but the whole point of this thread is that it would change

Thats why we need to make the pay more competitive as backwards as that sounds

Cops in mid size to bug cities make low six figs to high 5 figures because of insane overtime so put a cap on that and increase the pay on a range based on regular hours

Would help with recruiting more people

Also idk why you’re asking on how i can fix racism ? Idk man but we can make the people that go into the institution require certain skills and do other reforms and accountability holding

Lol absolutely f***ing not

No one said that’s the one simple solution. It’s a factor. I primarily like the idea of a college education requirement because it would lead to less cops overall, but more that are seriously committed to becoming law enforcement. Also It entirely depends on where you go to school. I went to a CSU and I think I had an amazing education education. DFW once said something about how a good education is more about teaching you how to get control of your thoughts

Sounds like some more Zimmerman s*** tbh, it's not only the police that is racist

It’s not tht dangerous

idk what a csu or dfw is. And the issue isn't that cops are too seriously committed to law enforcement. its what the laws are and how they manifest themselves.

We’re in agreement about all of this. But in a much scaled down community version of a police force with more educated members the racism should subside with more education. But again the pdf in the op also makes sense to replace them completely. But we can’t have people who couldn’t even finish high school making life or death decisions on our fellow humans

this is an elitist viewpoint.

we don't want more cops lol

also unless you want to abolish policing we aren't in agreement.

autostraddle.com/police-and-prison-abolition-101-a-syllabus-and-faq

again, read the stuff here.

California state university and he’s an author. I edited the post bc it sounded off but I meant officers that gravitate towards the field for a dedication rather than just another job to get. It’s about changing the people that go into law enforcement and how they think. We need a new system with new people in it

Yes but that’s another topic

New York was famous for being peaceful in this era

type of people who become police officers will never change educated people want better jobs

I will read it. You know as much as anybody I had a very privleged childhood besides my father dying when I was 4 and more recently my mom passing away. But regardless I grew up in a picturesque village right out of a movie. I never felt unsafe and never had any problems so as a result my world view for many years was limited and skewed. As I’ve matured my world view and perspective has grown and I’m very willing to let it grow even more. A little bit ago I would have never even thought about police abolishment or defunding police but this whole recent situation has changed my tune on that. I’m not proud that it took yet another human dying for me to change my perspective but I admit I am not perfect. You and I have our differences but please don’t assume that I’m not sincere in my intentions, I wouldn’t make a thread if That was the case. I want the best for all humans who deserve it and am trying to learn how to get us there.

Oh what a surprise