I don't mean to sound insensitive and I'm sorry for your loss but don't you think that that kind of major loss still impacts someone in a way where their perspective will change to a place where it may never have gotten to without having lost something so dear to them? Whether we want to call that stronger or more mature, usually those great losses unlock a level of empathy in us for our fellow human... idk, im just yapping, but that's the way I've always seen it
But it also doesn’t take having to experience that type of loss to understand the empathy you are getting at. I can feel deep sense of empathy without needing to experience what you described. Thats the beauty of the human condition
facts i get that for some ppl, hardships can be a catalyst for self improvement, but i don’t believe it’s that way for everybody. u can grow from pleasant experiences and healthy relationships as well
Exactly bro
facts i get that for some ppl, hardships can be a catalyst for self improvement, but i don’t believe it’s that way for everybody. u can grow from pleasant experiences and healthy relationships as well
preach
I never got my heart broken, but broke a couple hearts, sometimes because I had to leave a girl for another who I wanted to be with and I felt the pressure
Feels s***ty afterwards
They do, this isn’t even something you have to force, the real problem is men need to be taught healthy coping mechanisms that don’t equate to hating and losing empathy for everything
But it also doesn’t take having to experience that type of loss to understand the empathy you are getting at. I can feel deep sense of empathy without needing to experience what you described. Thats the beauty of the human condition
You can but you really don't. I'm just saying you think you are enlightened but it's like studying for a test and then actually doing it. Or training for a fight and then actually getting into the ring.
You don't know **** until you actually go through the experience. You can learn more in 5 minutes of boxing in the ring as opposed to a whole year of training.
facts i get that for some ppl, hardships can be a catalyst for self improvement, but i don’t believe it’s that way for everybody. u can grow from pleasant experiences and healthy relationships as well
Thank you. This guy gets it
there are so many more hurtful things in life that have the chance to be more developmental than heartbreak.
You can but you really don't. I'm just saying you think you are enlightened but it's like studying for a test and then actually doing it. Or training for a fight and then actually getting into the ring.
You don't know **** until you actually go through the experience. You can learn more in 5 minutes of boxing in the ring as opposed to a whole year of training.
How can you possibly say what I feel in my heart watching the bombings and pain of those suffering in Palestine? Or witness the innocent souls peacefully protesting and getting murdered by the government in my country? How can you possibly say I don’t empathize with that pain, cry over it and feel it deep in my body simply because I haven’t directly been through such direct oppressions? How can you say I don’t empathize with my girl or my brother and their medically diagnosed conditions of depression and understanding the depth of their unexplainable pain and circumstances?
How can you say I assume I’m enlightened when I’m simply just living my life and achieving my goals and feeling what others feel and empathizing/offering them reprieve in any way I can since I’m lucky to not have those problems? Simply cause I haven’t been through it directly. Man these one way of thinkings limits you. Sorry our perspectives on life don’t align, but please don’t tell me what I feel when it comes to empathy when you don’t walk a day in my shoes lmao.
You can but you really don't. I'm just saying you think you are enlightened but it's like studying for a test and then actually doing it. Or training for a fight and then actually getting into the ring.
You don't know **** until you actually go through the experience. You can learn more in 5 minutes of boxing in the ring as opposed to a whole year of training.
Correlating love to boxing sounds like the opposite of being enlightened it just sounds ignorant
You can but you really don't. I'm just saying you think you are enlightened but it's like studying for a test and then actually doing it. Or training for a fight and then actually getting into the ring.
You don't know **** until you actually go through the experience. You can learn more in 5 minutes of boxing in the ring as opposed to a whole year of training.
I see why mods took away your thread posting privileges
How can you possibly say what I feel in my heart watching the bombings and pain of those suffering in Palestine? Or witness the innocent souls peacefully protesting and getting murdered by the government in my country? How can you possibly say I don’t empathize with that pain, cry over it and feel it deep in my body simply because I haven’t directly been through such direct oppressions? How can you say I don’t empathize with my girl or my brother and their medically diagnosed conditions of depression and understanding the depth of their unexplainable pain and circumstances?
How can you say I assume I’m enlightened when I’m simply just living my life and achieving my goals and feeling what others feel and empathizing/offering them reprieve in any way I can since I’m lucky to not have those problems? Simply cause I haven’t been through it directly. Man these one way of thinkings limits you. Sorry our perspectives on life don’t align, but please don’t tell me what I feel when it comes to empathy when you don’t walk a day in my shoes lmao.
@goodkid_mAAdposter talks from a privileged white boy point of view you gotta really ignore most s*** he be saying.
The greatest setback to men was the notion that suffering (not "beneficial suffering" like damn I hate that I gotta do this task but if you do it, you'll succeed later on, like a test) builds character.
That's not really normal and it's just some fetishized American macho s*** to make men lack empathy lol.
Just once. The amount of growth you undergo whether it's through going to the gym, not putting women on a pedestal, knowing you control your own happiness and no woman can take that away from you etc. is an important life lesson.
Do y'all agree?
Damn you right honestly. Just had my biggest heartbreak not too long ago cause I was playing stepdaddy to her daughter and s*** hurt hurt losing what I thought was my future. I’m stronger than ever though now and the girl I’m dating is wayyyyy better than my ex on almost every level. I’m blessed
How can you possibly say what I feel in my heart watching the bombings and pain of those suffering in Palestine? Or witness the innocent souls peacefully protesting and getting murdered by the government in my country? How can you possibly say I don’t empathize with that pain, cry over it and feel it deep in my body simply because I haven’t directly been through such direct oppressions? How can you say I don’t empathize with my girl or my brother and their medically diagnosed conditions of depression and understanding the depth of their unexplainable pain and circumstances?
How can you say I assume I’m enlightened when I’m simply just living my life and achieving my goals and feeling what others feel and empathizing/offering them reprieve in any way I can since I’m lucky to not have those problems? Simply cause I haven’t been through it directly. Man these one way of thinkings limits you. Sorry our perspectives on life don’t align, but please don’t tell me what I feel when it comes to empathy when you don’t walk a day in my shoes lmao.
And I'm saying once (or IF) you get your heartbroken you'll have a different perspective than you do now about relationships and love.
But if you are happy now do you. That's what life is about anyway, being happy. I'm not wishing heartbreak on anyone.
Here is another a***ogy
If you are a kid, chances are you have taken a fall and hurt yourself. But you get up and once you feel the pain and realize you'll be okay, you become stronger and more confident in yourself.
Of course if you never fall in your life, you avoid that painful experience, but chances are you are weaker than the kids that did fall and had to get back up.
I wouldn't say break their heart
But I do feel like there's alot to be learned about yourself and the world, when u come out of a relationship and the phase after the relationship; healing/recovery
It's a great mirror of yourself, what u project to the world as a human and how others interact with this reflection u project
But also a mirror to a***yze your own image, personality and vision of yourself and the world
Plus add the factor of age, cause I for example was a late bloomer when it came to relationships so I think my naivety got balanced out by my more mature way of thinking, which helped me navigate the processes clearer instead of based on emotions
Where maybe dealing with first heartbreak at the age of 15 will be heavier controlled by emotions, plus understanding of self, the world and others is also still developing
Been thinking about this… I have a few homies that crashed out and their women never left them… I wonder if that was good or bad for them…
They do, this isn’t even something you have to force, the real problem is men need to be taught healthy coping mechanisms that don’t equate to hating and losing empathy for everything
might be controversial but attempting to stay healthy with at least one ex will help with this if it’s not a toxic situation
the first real heartbreak leads to the f***boy phase