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  • Turns out I was mixing my low end tracks too quietly, making the brighter tracks seem too harsh in comparison to the rest of the mix

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    bloom

    Aston spirit or origin. Otherwise just save up more its worth it

    Here’s the list of priorities when it comes to vocals

    1) Performance
    2) Mic & 3) Mic position
    4) Acoustics
    5) Pre/Compression
    6) EQ

    Recording with a Pre or Compression/EQ sounds sexy but I wouldn’t worry about it until your acoustics match up. Best results are usually with Hardware effects. They’re applied to make the recording require less mixing. Usually just taming the peaks with a compressor and removing low rumble from the room with a High Pass. Once you get the hang of that you can start doing more.

    UAD has nice preamp plugins too. I’ve achieved good results with the FG-73 plugin from Slate as well. Slate has a cheap subscription model for their plugins if you want to try that. I’d definitely stay away from recording with Plugin EQ/Compression.

    Depending on how bad your acoustics are they might be more important than the microphone to upgrade. A good microphone in a terrible room will just pick up a lot of the terrible room in detail.

    If treating the whole room isn’t an option I’d suggest building or buying some bass traps to make a recording corner. Place them to surround you while recording, prioritize the spaces in front of and behind the microphone.

    Hope that helps

    Just remembered to come back itt Thanks for the info. I appreciate it.

    Leaning towards the Spirit. All the reviews sound nice.

  • Jun 11, 2020
    AKFresh

    Just remembered to come back itt Thanks for the info. I appreciate it.

    Leaning towards the Spirit. All the reviews sound nice.

    I definitely loved it. Microphones are like shoes. Of course there’s the designer s*** but if a pair of forces or some random 70$ reebooks fits your style? rock with it

    Make sure you demo those mics if you can. For the longest i thought i needed this n that mic and once i got to try them i preferred less exclusive or traditionally suitable models

  • Jun 11, 2020

    acoustic panels too important mayne

    after putting up around 15 and getting myself a pair of adam a77x, its clear that the low end in most songs really isnt that loud. But its enough to feel the groove and enable the song to end up loud in mastering without all the headroom being taken up by the low end.

    My old Yamaha HS8 had great bass but now i see it was way too much. Every song i played the bass was booming and i thought i had to match that which is why my mixes were coming out bass heavy and too quiet.

    With this setup the bass is tight and controlled, i know exactly how much bass each song needs its crazy not needing to second guess mixing decisions lmao.

    Just thought this may help some of you

  • Jun 18, 2020
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    someone give me some dope headphone recommendations pls.

    i need something thats comfortable that i can use to mix and produce. prefarably wireless headphones.

  • tajer

    someone give me some dope headphone recommendations pls.

    i need something thats comfortable that i can use to mix and produce. prefarably wireless headphones.

    Just look for monitor headphones. Price point is up to you

  • Jun 18, 2020

    I used to have the AT-M20x but they were hella painful whenever I wore them with glasses lol. So idk about the M50x.

    If most wireless headphones are trash for music production , what are some nice wired ones that u can suggest ?

  • Jun 18, 2020
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    stream evangelion

    The biggest mix mistake I see people making is inserting individual reverb plugins on tracks themselves rather then using sends where you can control how much reverb effects the signal. On FL the sends are the knobs with the arrows and green outlines in the mixer

    i see this advice posted everywhere but i don't think i grasp the benefit fully

    aside from using it on multiple vocal takes

    wouldn't lowering the dry/wet control how much reverb effects the signal?

    does it just sound better when using a send vs. being more lenient with the dry/wet?

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    notesfromphilo

    i see this advice posted everywhere but i don't think i grasp the benefit fully

    aside from using it on multiple vocal takes

    wouldn't lowering the dry/wet control how much reverb effects the signal?

    does it just sound better when using a send vs. being more lenient with the dry/wet?

    using it as insert means the whole signal is essentially wet and you arent adding a reverb tail to the sound in the way that creates a space around it. This is used when you want to push an instrument back in depth in the mix.

    Adding it as a send means you can blend the dry signal from the original output as well as the wet signal coming from the send. This creates more of a tail and space for the instrument in the mix

  • Clb sexman

    using it as insert means the whole signal is essentially wet and you arent adding a reverb tail to the sound in the way that creates a space around it. This is used when you want to push an instrument back in depth in the mix.

    Adding it as a send means you can blend the dry signal from the original output as well as the wet signal coming from the send. This creates more of a tail and space for the instrument in the mix

    ah, that makes sense

    appreciate the info!

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    Is it fine if my individual tracks are clipping (in the red) but I'm running a trim plugin on the master bus track / bus track to keep it around -6dbfs for mastering?
    I mostly use VSTs/samples and I make sure not to record my vocals too hot.
    Or is it better if trim each track individually?

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    StackieChan

    Is it fine if my individual tracks are clipping (in the red) but I'm running a trim plugin on the master bus track / bus track to keep it around -6dbfs for mastering?
    I mostly use VSTs/samples and I make sure not to record my vocals too hot.
    Or is it better if trim each track individually?

    just try to make individual tracks quieter while maximizing volume on the master

  • Jun 22, 2020
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    gin and juice

    just try to make individual tracks quieter while maximizing volume on the master

    Any reason why? What exactly is the difference?

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    StackieChan

    Any reason why? What exactly is the difference?

    for all I know the quality won't drop if you turn up the gain while mastering rather than turning it up on separate tracks anyway

    and you won't have to be worried about several tracks clipping

    just balance them between each other nicely and then do your thing on master chain until it's as loud as you want it to be

    balance is the very important cause if one of your instruments is too loud compared to each other, you either get a quiet mix or distorted mix (or ASTROWORLD if everything is too loud)

    some compression on master chain might help to pull down kicks and claps a lil bit inside of the instrumental so you have more room left for even more volume

  • Jun 22, 2020
    gin and juice

    for all I know the quality won't drop if you turn up the gain while mastering rather than turning it up on separate tracks anyway

    and you won't have to be worried about several tracks clipping

    just balance them between each other nicely and then do your thing on master chain until it's as loud as you want it to be

    balance is the very important cause if one of your instruments is too loud compared to each other, you either get a quiet mix or distorted mix (or ASTROWORLD if everything is too loud)

    some compression on master chain might help to pull down kicks and claps a lil bit inside of the instrumental so you have more room left for even more volume

    thank you

  • Jul 7, 2020

    bouta start ravaging through this thread. I record mix and engineer all my s*** alone so i end up just doing bad s*** that makes it sound decent to my ears, but know that I’m doing some s*** improperly and can improve upon it drastically

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    mixing vocals is such a pain in the ass to me

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    Creasy

    mixing vocals is such a pain in the ass to me

    What are you having a hard time with? I enjoy mixing vocals rather than beats any day.

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    An_Gogh

    What are you having a hard time with? I enjoy mixing vocals rather than beats any day.

    Really? I got difficulties with hearing and identifying how to eq or how to work compression and stuff like I get what each knobs are supposed to do in theory but my ear is not hearing the effects at times

    Like I'll be knowing how I want something to sound but cant seem to get the sound right without messing it up, recently started tho so it might be due to that

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    Creasy

    Really? I got difficulties with hearing and identifying how to eq or how to work compression and stuff like I get what each knobs are supposed to do in theory but my ear is not hearing the effects at times

    Like I'll be knowing how I want something to sound but cant seem to get the sound right without messing it up, recently started tho so it might be due to that

    We've all started from nothing. If you want, I can type up a guide to the way I use vocal EQ and compression and paste it ITT. LMK.

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    An_Gogh

    We've all started from nothing. If you want, I can type up a guide to the way I use vocal EQ and compression and paste it ITT. LMK.

    1000! Thatd be super helpful, any type of advice Id appreciate a lot

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    Creasy

    1000! Thatd be super helpful, any type of advice Id appreciate a lot

    These are not EXACT settings since each vocal is treated differently, but this should help give you an idea of which frequencies are most important. Also, there are many other options for compressors, these are just the ones I prefer.

    Subtractive EQ:

    100: high-pass to get rid of unwanted noise
    100-200: notch out for resonances from small rooms
    200-300: notch out if vocal sounds muffled

    300-500: notch out with broad curves if vocal sounds nosy

    1176 modeled plugin (I use the CLA-76 from Waves)

    Ratio: 4:1
    Gain reduction: 1-2db
    Attack: 5
    Release: 7

    Adjust output

    Additive EQ:

    1800-2200: boost to add presence
    5000: boost to open up the top of a vocal
    9000-11000: boost for brightness

    above 11000: boost for air

    LA-2A modeled plugin (I use the CLA-2A from Waves)

    Peak reduction: 2-4db
    Adjust output gain

    EDIT: not sure why some lines got separated and were made bigger

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