Steve Jobs wasn't a designer, Elon Musk isn't an engineer.

Try to educate yourself. There’s no better person for that role than Elon Musk. The level of detail he knows is staggering and I guarantee you he has more experience and knowledge on how to make these things come to reality than anyone else living
Oh so ICE isn’t Trumps fault then.
China trade war isn’t Trumps fault?
Okay...
Like I said earlier in the thread every president fails to enact majority of they’re policies but every president has a mark. (Meaning they get some of they’re policies through sorry I have to break everything down for you like this)
ICE was around before even Obama
Try to educate yourself. There’s no better person for that role than Elon Musk. The level of detail he knows is staggering and I guarantee you he has more experience and knowledge on how to make these things come to reality than anyone else living
I give up on you, at this point. I'm not going to listen to you wax lyrical about a guy LARPing as Tony Stark
ICE was around before even Obama
I’m talking about they’re recent events when did I say Trump created ICE
You seriously grab at straws to avoid the fact that Trump has gotten polices through
I give up on you, at this point. I'm not going to listen to you wax lyrical about a guy LARPing as Tony Stark
You’ve given up on yourself.
Stay ignorant
I’m talking about they’re recent events when did I say Trump created ICE
You seriously grab at straws to avoid the fact that Trump has gotten polices through
How ICE operated hasn't really changed under Trump, they've just been given more awareness
I just watched the whole South Carolina video and it was actually not as bad as I thought it'd be (even though the audio was wack lol). He might not be the ideal president, but he said many things that I liked and that were inspiring. While I doubt he's ready to actually run the biggest country in the world, I think many of his ideas/innovations/philosophies could enrich and make a difference in society if he was given the tools and worked together with good people, as he has done in some of his other creative collaborations. I don't live in the US but would be dope to get a vision of what a man with his ideas and passions could bring to the world if he actually became the president.
Some people will really say “pipe dreams”
Everything Bernie was saying in 2016 was a “pipe dream” & now they’re majority of the democratic constituents demands.
Support what you believe in and it won’t be a pipe dream anymore. These are stances you have to get behind because you all complain about them on social media everyday but never look for a solution
But it wasn’t though was it, cos he had detailed plans put together by dedicated staff (including costings), a history of decades in office backing him up, and a history of voting on issues.
You’re basing your entire view of Kanye’s potential policies off a few random, not expansively explained, thoughts in interviews and tweets - this is infinitely more of a pipe dream than anything Bernie proposed
You’ve given up on yourself.
Stay ignorant
I'm not the person who falling a for a guy who pretends to be iron man
I'm honestly sick of discussing politics with the teenagers on here who clearly have no idea how super complex political, economic, and legislative systems operate and legitimately believe that Kanye has built a campaign fit to be in charge of the entire country. Some of you guys have no idea how ignorant you are. Even someone like Biden who people here love to point to and act like he's some senile old man, look at his platform and how DETAILED and research backed every single policy is.
He has a team that's been assembled that took years in the making. He has experience pushing legislation through Congress. He has actual political and economic knowledge and the ability to articulate himself in ways that dwarf Kanye's impassioned rants. I'm no f***ing Biden fan but it's gotten to the point where I actually have to defend someone like him because people here are so deluded into thinking that this s*** is more simple than it actually is.
I'm honestly sick of discussing politics with the teenagers on here who clearly have no idea how super complex political, economic, and legislative systems operate and legitimately believe that Kanye has built a campaign fit to be in charge of the entire country. Some of you guys have no idea how ignorant you are. Even someone like Biden who people here love to point to and act like he's some senile old man, look at his platform and how DETAILED and research backed every single policy is.
https://joebiden.com/joes-vision/
He has a team that's been assembled that took years in the making. He has experience pushing legislation through Congress. He has actual political and economic knowledge and the ability to articulate himself in ways that dwarf Kanye's impassioned rants. I'm no f***ing Biden fan but it's gotten to the point where I actually have to defend someone like him because people here are so deluded into thinking that this s*** is more simple than it actually is.
Sad reality is that given Trump, Brexit and the general vitriol many people have for “experts”, this is far from being a problem just amongst teenagers :(
I'm honestly sick of discussing politics with the teenagers on here who clearly have no idea how super complex political, economic, and legislative systems operate and legitimately believe that Kanye has built a campaign fit to be in charge of the entire country. Some of you guys have no idea how ignorant you are. Even someone like Biden who people here love to point to and act like he's some senile old man, look at his platform and how DETAILED and research backed every single policy is.
https://joebiden.com/joes-vision/
He has a team that's been assembled that took years in the making. He has experience pushing legislation through Congress. He has actual political and economic knowledge and the ability to articulate himself in ways that dwarf Kanye's impassioned rants. I'm no f***ing Biden fan but it's gotten to the point where I actually have to defend someone like him because people here are so deluded into thinking that this s*** is more simple than it actually is.
You realize those policies have been copied and pasted from other sources right?
Biden didn’t write those policies. He has dementia and pretty sure he’s exposed that he doesn’t even agree with or know those policies that have been written for him by the DNC
The only thing the DNC wants to do is maintain status quo
Sorry this might be a conversation for progressives.
Sad reality is that given Trump, Brexit and the general vitriol many people have for “experts”, this is far from being a problem just amongst teenagers :(
Oh it's a huge issue. Anti-intellectualism is a big problem and it was kinda spearheaded by Trump and "fake news." People with no actual knowledge shut down peer reviewed research by experts with tens of years in the field just because it doesn't align with what they want to believe. Emotions have replaced logic
Oh it's a huge issue. Anti-intellectualism is a big problem and it was kinda spearheaded by Trump and "fake news." People with no actual knowledge shut down peer reviewed research by experts with tens of years in the field just because it doesn't align with what they want to believe. Emotions have replaced logic
You realize there’s peer reviewed papers for hundreds of opposing views.
It’s an impossibility to agree with all of them.
Just wait til Kanye’s team cooks up a nice and tight platform based on Kanye’s stances that are highly representative of the people then you won’t have this talking point lmao
You realize those policies have been copied and pasted from other sources right?
Biden didn’t write those policies. He has dementia and pretty sure he’s exposed that he doesn’t even agree with or know those policies that have been written for him by the DNC
The only thing the DNC wants to do is maintain status quo
Sorry this might be a conversation for progressives.
You think you're really saying something by stating the blatantly obvious about the DNC. You're talking to someone who's been to Bernie rallies, knocked on doors for him, and made phone calls. I'm plenty aware of this s*** and I don't have to be a Biden fan to acknowledge that he's better than Trump and that Kanye is not f***ing suited to be president. Biden may not be all there anymore but he's certainly more there than Kanye right now, and the team of professionals around him were carefully assembled over YEARS. And because of his experience as a senator and a VP he has connections with top notch experts and political associates than Kanye just doesn't. The man's campaign didn't even file the paperwork to get him on the freaking ballot and you think he should run the damn country.
Kanye’s talking about K-12 and colleges that’s the difference.
You realize people in the UK graduate high school at 16 and have a vocational focus their last two years of high school?
The American school system is not set up correctly
Kanye’s stance is to restructure it completely
“No. 3 restructuring the nations educational system to serve the nations most vulnerable populations providing educational and vocational options”
“They don’t teach you in school that you can buy 100 acres for 100 grand in middle America and feed your family from the land”
“Do you think there’s a reason why they don’t teach you that?”
You have to acknowledge the stances. Just acknowledge the difference
Cool, and what’s his plan to enact this change?
You think you're really saying something by stating the blatantly obvious about the DNC. You're talking to someone who's been to Bernie rallies, knocked on doors for him, and made phone calls. I'm plenty aware of this s*** and I don't have to be a Biden fan to acknowledge that he's better than Trump and that Kanye is not f***ing suited to be president. Biden may not be all there anymore but he's certainly more there than Kanye right now, and the team of professionals around him were carefully assembled over YEARS. And because of his experience as a senator and a VP he has connections with top notch experts and political associates than Kanye just doesn't. The man's campaign didn't even file the paperwork to get him on the freaking ballot and you think he should run the damn country.
https://twitter.com/jslovegrove/status/1285244784723079168?s=20
Biden who forgets where he is. Forgets his own policies and is making blatantly racist comments towards the black community is more there than Kanye who is forming his own highly agreeable stances and assembling a campaign and platform as we speak?
You realize there’s peer reviewed papers for hundreds of opposing views.
It’s an impossibility to agree with all of them.
Just wait til Kanye’s team cooks up a nice and tight platform based on Kanye’s stances that are highly representative of the people then you won’t have this talking point lmao
This just simply isn’t true though is it. Yes there are issues which are contentious and divide opinion in scientific communities, but there are many more which are overwhelmingly supported by one side only.
Take anti vax theories as the poster child for this
You realize there’s peer reviewed papers for hundreds of opposing views.
It’s an impossibility to agree with all of them.
Just wait til Kanye’s team cooks up a nice and tight platform based on Kanye’s stances that are highly representative of the people then you won’t have this talking point lmao
Wait when did anyone say you have to agree with them? The point is that people no longer even ENGAGE with them and shut them down based on emotions because it goes against their party's desires and pre-existing beliefs. Something like 98% of climate scientists are in agreement that humans are drastically contributing to climate change for the worse and you still have so many morons in denial who have never even read a study or done an ounce of research
Cool, and what’s his plan to enact this change?
Get the smartest people in a room together and come up with the solution.
He’s said this numerous times
Get the smartest people in a room together and come up with the solution.
He’s said this numerous times
This is something a third grader would say. If only it were that simple
Get the smartest people in a room together and come up with the solution.
He’s said this numerous times
That’s not a plan
That’s delegation
That’s like running on the platform of giving everyone $1B and when asked how, saying, “I don’t know, let the experts figure it out”
This is something a third grader would say. If only it were that simple
No one said it was simple
It’s the solution.
Biden who forgets where he is. Forgets his own policies and is making blatantly racist comments towards the black community is more there than Kanye who is forming his own highly agreeable stances and assembling a campaign and platform as we speak?
I don’t want to delve into speculation on the possible mental health issues of either candidate.
But with Kanye you’re talking about someone who has only tried to enter the running for 2020 months before the election, long after he’s even able to get on the ballot for most states, and claims to be 100% serious about running right now to win this election, not as some sort of trial for 2024.
He’s entered the running with almost no warning, no history of soliciting donations or grassroots campaigning, no concrete platform or actual specific, costed and researched policy goals.
Has only just held a fairly impromptu initial campaign rally, in a state where he only just tweeted out a request for signatures on a ballot to get on him on the list at the 11th hour, only to then have it confirmed shortly after the rally that he didn’t even file paperwork to get on the ballot for the state.
It’s beyond me how you can criticise Biden as lacking lucidity and being some confused senile man who has no idea what’s going on, but then support a candidate in Kanye who, if he is serious about running, is doing so in the most shambolic, uncohesive way ever seen
I don’t want to delve into speculation on the possible mental health issues of either candidate.
But with Kanye you’re talking about someone who has only tried to enter the running for 2020 months before the election, long after he’s even able to get on the ballot for most states, and claims to be 100% serious about running right now to win this election, not as some sort of trial for 2024.
He’s entered the running with almost no warning, no history of soliciting donations or grassroots campaigning, no concrete platform or actual specific, costed and researched policy goals.
Has only just held a fairly impromptu initial campaign rally, in a state where he only just tweeted out a request for signatures on a ballot to get on him on the list at the 11th hour, only to then have it confirmed shortly after the rally that he didn’t even file paperwork to get on the ballot for the state.
It’s beyond me how you can criticise Biden as lacking lucidity and being some confused senile man who has no idea what’s going on, but then support a candidate in Kanye who, if he is serious about running, is doing so in the most shambolic, uncohesive way ever seen
Thank you this is exactly it and shows how biased people are. People here seem to think you only need good intentions and passion to be the president of the country