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  • BRAVE

    Illmatic isn't a classic

    - BRAVE

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  • May 13, 2020
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    JUUL

    No one from todays gen stands up to anyone you listed if im being real

    Kanye, Frank definitely do

  • May 13, 2020
    JUUL

    I mean most mainstream classics have gone on to be platinum etc, no non mainstream classic is going to do numbers or be known to most of the public

    Yeah again I’m talking about artist careers not specific projects

    Not every project an artist is going to release over a decade span for example is gonna be a 10/10 to everyone

    But when it’s all said and done, don’t the numbers mean more than what this or that guy thinks is a classic?

  • May 13, 2020

    men lie, women lie, numbers don't idk if thats the case w music though

  • May 13, 2020
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    Drake is basically LL Cool J, someone who sold millions consistently but no one cares about in due time because his music didn’t pass the test of time

  • May 13, 2020
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    CLB Rosetta Stone

    Good post

    Again I think people are thinking I’m talking about an individual project when I’m alluding to an artists entire career

    I feel it’s more plausible to check on what he was able to do statistically to place him here or there then to place him based on what this or that guy thinks is a “classic”

    Big statistics always lead to impact, genre shifts, etc.

    Stop speaking so hypothetically and just say “drake” bro 😂😂

  • May 13, 2020
    BUMBLINGSPASTIC

    Great music > numbers

    Yes objectively great music exists get over it

    To answer your real question OP yes drake music is mid and doesn’t stand up to real goats like MJ, the Beatles, prince, Stevie wonder, miles Davis, etc. All he has is numbers

    Was gonna respond to this but i don’t know your username and “kanye Frank” post speaks for itself

  • May 13, 2020
    SUPER RED

    Drake is basically LL Cool J, someone who sold millions consistently but no one cares about in due time because his music didn’t pass the test of time

    this is one of the worst takes ive ever seen lmao

  • May 13, 2020
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    Lol i don’t know man haven’t mentioned drake in here once

    I don’t think you can read??

  • May 13, 2020

    same people that swear kids see ghosts is a classic same people thinking king slime drizzy drake dont got clasiscs

  • May 13, 2020
    SUPER RED

    Drake is basically LL Cool J, someone who sold millions consistently but no one cares about in due time because his music didn’t pass the test of time

    Not sure what this has to do with the thread or how insanely stupid you have to be to type this out but try to stay on topic little buster

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    What it really means is the drake brand is on its A game of appealing to the most diverse range of demographics without necessarily being off-putting to anyone

    This requires a lot of thinking and strategy. What you're left with is diluted music, and that's rarely able to be classic in the hip hop genre

  • May 13, 2020
    BUMBLINGSPASTIC

    Stop speaking so hypothetically and just say “drake” bro 😂😂

    You can’t have a normal discussion?

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    BUMBLINGSPASTIC

    Kanye, Frank definitely do

    True i'll put them in there when its all said and done but we are still in the moment

  • CLB Rosetta Stone

    Lol i don’t know man haven’t mentioned drake in here once

    I don’t think you can read??

    Wasn’t that hard to put two and two together dog

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    HITSLIKEDIETCOKE

    What it really means is the drake brand is on its A game of appealing to the most diverse range of demographics without necessarily being off-putting to anyone

    This requires a lot of thinking and strategy. What you're left with is diluted music, and that's rarely able to be classic in the hip hop genre

    well said

  • May 13, 2020

    One of my friends always says yb is better than thug because he has a much bigger audience, and I get so angry because good art has nothing to do with how popular something is...

  • May 13, 2020
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    JUUL

    True i'll put them in there when its all said and done but we are still in the moment

    Yeah that’s fair. But you feel me it’s the same caliber of artistic greatness. I’d think of putting Kendrick up there but he’s missing something

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    HITSLIKEDIETCOKE

    What it really means is the drake brand is on its A game of appealing to the most diverse range of demographics without necessarily being off-putting to anyone

    This requires a lot of thinking and strategy. What you're left with is diluted music, and that's rarely able to be classic in the hip hop genre

    I don’t know why drake keeps being brought up but ok

    I’m asking if being able to do what you said in the first half of your post for example for a long time puts an artist at a top tier level or if that’s trumped because this or that guy thinks he doesn’t have a “classic”

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    SUPER RED

    Drake is basically LL Cool J, someone who sold millions consistently but no one cares about in due time because his music didn’t pass the test of time

    Dude you are off the f***ing bean. U With Me? alone is better than 96% of rappers’ and LL Cool J’s entire respective careers. And that’s off one of his weakest albums. I’m not even a Drake stan but you’re just a hater if you really think that or truly know nothing about music

  • May 13, 2020
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    Dude you are off the f***ing bean. U With Me? alone is better than 96% of rappers’ and LL Cool J’s entire respective careers. And that’s off one of his weakest albums. I’m not even a Drake stan but you’re just a hater if you really think that or truly know nothing about music

    Definitely doesn’t think that haha

    Just a troll for some KTT2 likes

  • May 13, 2020
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    CLB Rosetta Stone

    Who’s saying not to care about the art?
    I’m saying what holds higher weight and speaks to the art being good

    Project consistently putting up big numbers all over the world let’s say or what this or that person thinks is a “classic”

    Oh ok I see what you’re saying bro. I think acclaim hold more weight cause a lot of trash go on to sell (6ix9ine). I’m not downing putting up good numbers consistently cause that’s an incredible feat but I’d rather be remembered for my body of work, not sales. But if I could do both >>>

  • CLB Rosetta Stone

    I don’t know why drake keeps being brought up but ok

    I’m asking if being able to do what you said in the first half of your post for example for a long time puts an artist at a top tier level or if that’s trumped because this or that guy thinks he doesn’t have a “classic”

    Depends on whether 'classic' is just in the context of rap only

  • May 13, 2020

    I make a general statement about music and he take’s it personal I don’t think I need anymore proof of mental instability

  • SUPER RED

    Drake is basically LL Cool J, someone who sold millions consistently but no one cares about in due time because his music didn’t pass the test of time

    ll cool j is a legend. Horrible take.