americana

2y

Thomas Sowell

Lystra

2y

What he says is exactly what happened in China

At first the communists are envious of the rich and they tear them down with force

After this we fall into the contradictory philosophy of believing that the ruling class is inherently evil while needing someone to actually run society. Then we either fall into cycles of perpetual civil war, or the communist regime uses tools like fascism to convince people that the government is good and their enemy is evil, generally leading to genocide

But his point goes deeper into some controversial takes on biology and sex. I don't believe that we can characterize someone based on their s***but I do understand the idea of left brain vs right brain thinking and how in general there are some differences on how men and women generally approach reality. He basically says that when we fall too far in either direction bad s*** happens. He relates facism to extreme masculinity and communism to extreme feminism. I don't think this is sexisf as he makes a point that's feminine traits are only toxic when in excess as is also true with masculinity.

CRACKHEAD

2y

Some landlords have more power than feudal lords

Im not talkijg about the granny renting out her second home

afterimage

2y

…. That’s the whole point of what I said. The landlords that got killed were effectively still remnants of the feudal era in China. it’s just important to differentiate because anti-communists use that as fuel to say “MAO KILLED LANDLORDS” like he ordered every single one to death. Without nuance

Also not every person apart of the landlord class was killed, often they were given chance after chance by the community to support the peasant communes.

“Execution. This is confined to the worst local tyrants and evil gentry and is carried out by the peasants jointly with other sections of the people.”

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-1/mswv1_2.htm#s5

CRACKHEAD

2y

I don't know who you are arguing against

afterimage

2y

no one. so whoever reads the thread can see that Mao wasn’t just a bloodthirsty landlord killer. Someone has to clarify.

Block Muteson

2y

I got you

Marble

2y

Communism = kill everyone you don’t like

It’s not that difficult of a concept

Marble

2y

Communism = kill everyone you don’t like

It’s not that difficult of a concept

WRU

2y

y'all gave this bozo ass 5 pages instead of giving him one bullet to the back of his stupid ass head

Hurdle33 dog

2y

this is something that you need to contend with yourself if you are a communist. communism isnt "oh great leaders help us uwu". its violent protection of your freedom as a human being. how can you have an organisation that can 1. defend itself from the most violent most ruthless most greedy nations in human existence 2. have a authority structure that doesnt attract careerists who will eventually follow their own class interests(intellectuals and oligarchs).

these are hards questions with no definite answer but as americanski said, thats why marxism is inherently dialectical. There is no one size fits all, you have to be curious and honest and most importantly actually talk to people. touch grass.

Lystra

2y

i actually started researching communism and the more i read the dumber it sounds

Its like very childish logic. Social and economic hierarchy is a reflection of evolution at work. Not because the ruling class is inherently better than the "proletariat" but because of relativity inherent in reality itself. Equality is not something that exists in nature. We will inevitably experience cycles of rulership being consumed by revolution and it continues for infinity. However, because capitalism is actually pretty effective, these cycles have been slowed down to the time scale of centuries because the actual tension required for revolution is not as high since capitalism does a decent job of satisfying peoples needs.

Lystra

2y

i actually started researching communism and the more i read the dumber it sounds

Its like very childish logic. Social and economic hierarchy is a reflection of evolution at work. Not because the ruling class is inherently better than the "proletariat" but because of relativity inherent in reality itself. Equality is not something that exists in nature. We will inevitably experience cycles of rulership being consumed by revolution and it continues for infinity. However, because capitalism is actually pretty effective, these cycles have been slowed down to the time scale of centuries because the actual tension required for revolution is not as high since capitalism does a decent job of satisfying peoples needs.

Lystra

2y

the term dialectical implies some level of logic and rationale

communism doesnt have an iota of rationale in its entire anatomy. its entirely based on a series of assumptions about the relationship between human behavior and economics. it posits an inevitable class warfare when in fact many societies based on capitalism never actually experience this or when it does happen its a blip in the history of the country

which is also funny because all communist countries pretty much failed spectacularly. you could argue this is because of western intervention but that doesnt really make sense when the communist world basically cannibalized itself

Smoking Rules

2y

You’re arguing with cartoon Avis on a Kanye west fan site about communism. My brother in Christ go outside

Lystra

2y

the term dialectical implies some level of logic and rationale

communism doesnt have an iota of rationale in its entire anatomy. its entirely based on a series of assumptions about the relationship between human behavior and economics. it posits an inevitable class warfare when in fact many societies based on capitalism never actually experience this or when it does happen its a blip in the history of the country

which is also funny because all communist countries pretty much failed spectacularly. you could argue this is because of western intervention but that doesnt really make sense when the communist world basically cannibalized itself

Hurdle33 dog

2y

they experience class warfare daily its just that the capitalist media doesnt show it to you. the most insane thing about your posts is honestly that you craft this propaganda reality and then make all these assumptions. why do you expect me to engage with that? its so braindead

Lystra

2y

whats insane to me is how you guys make all these claims and say i dont know what im talking about but never go into detail about how im wrong

Lystra

2y

whats insane to me is how you guys make all these claims and say i dont know what im talking about but never go into detail about how im wrong

Lystra

2y

whats insane to me is how you guys make all these claims and say i dont know what im talking about but never go into detail about how im wrong

Lystra

2y

whats insane to me is how you guys make all these claims and say i dont know what im talking about but never go into detail about how im wrong

Lystra

2y

whats insane to me is how you guys make all these claims and say i dont know what im talking about but never go into detail about how im wrong

Hurdle33 dog

2y

google germany strikes