The Joker was creative too, he was a comedian 😖

Kanye is that you

We creatives operate on a different plane than the rest of the planet. It’s a different mission with a different set of rules.

yeah man, society def has devalued art. i reckon it's because art of all kinds is kinda commoditized these days.

Creativity is how you get ahead. You just also have to do some hard work that’s not creative as well

Too many people claim to be creative when they’re not

even itt people are like “you gotta make your art make money”.
when scientists can just research in any field and get funding much easier (generalising of course)

It’s wild how lucrative being uncreative can be. Society tends to reward rehashing and repackaging s*** that’s played out over ideas that are actually new. This happens on every level and in every field. This is what creatives are up against.

this is a great point

capitalism doesn't allow much time for creativity.

do whatever u have to get that funding while trying to keep as much artistic integrity as possible...

I'd agree with that to an extent. rich kids get their entire childhoods to experiment with creativity and then its up to them whether they want to continue. Poor people can't afford instruments/lessons/equipments + support while they're doing unpaid internship type stuff

That’s not true. Plenty had time in the 20th century
There’s not as much now no due to inflation the economy etc

Depends. The people funding research grants aren't doing so purely altruistrically. There's usually financial motivation behind that as well

sure lol

Uh what do you mean “sure” people who lived then even literally said it man lol what are you talking about

i guess thats the benefit of being a creative tho you can creatively find a diff path

You want to be creative on a cot under a free way or logical in a Bentley. Choice is yours

youre right, and so are the people i quoted. im just saying it being that way is wrong, and we gotta change that

op came through with the facts

i'd say kinda. i wouldn't say rich kids are necessarily pushed to be creative any more than non-rich kids are. they may be "creative" in the sense that they have access to buy things like cameras, musical equipment. Those instruments by themselves don't confer creativity, though it's possible they can inspire it.

and what they have going against creativity is that children of wealthy ppl are taught the ways of business much more than their middle- and lower-class counterparts, as that's likely how their parents got rich, and which is both a usually-less-creative and far less risky avenue to their becoming rich themselves.

What do you mean by left behind? That they don’t, in average, make as much money as, let’s say, a doctor? I don’t see nothing wrong with this.

Vast majority of "creatives" contribute little to society, if that's all they do. The most creative minds in turn produce content that is useful, like well known artists do, or people like steve jobs who use their creativity to create products that are beneficial to many people. Just because you can make some cool cover art or paint something dope doesn't mean people should care. Create something worth caring about and people will care. And that is reflected in society