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  • May 21, 2021
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    CLDP

    By the way the protests were full of signs that advocated for police reform - in junction with posters wanting defunding it painted a clearer picture of immediacy than “make policing just again” would ever do

    Don't waste the time bruh. This a dude who been brainwashed by the idea of respectability politics actually getting anybody anywhere.

    There have been calls for police reform for decades and that s*** been getting ignored every step of the way.

    People don't give a f*** how you present your slogan. If it's something that takes power away from police it doesn't mean a damn thing, and it'll be dead upon arrival.

  • May 21, 2021
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    CLDP

    By the way the protests were full of signs that advocated for police reform - in junction with posters wanting defunding it painted a clearer picture of immediacy than “make policing just again” would ever do

    Ok the make police just again was just a maga parody slogan I made up for the lols, I’ll admit that

    Conservatives have a much better messaging system, “pro-life” “maga” “family values”

    Yeah their dog whistles, but it get their voters engaged

  • May 21, 2021
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    Smacked Voodoo

    Don't waste the time bruh. This a dude who been brainwashed by the idea of respectability politics actually getting anybody anywhere.

    There have been calls for police reform for decades and that s*** been getting ignored every step of the way.

    People don't give a f*** how you present your slogan. If it's something that takes power away from police it doesn't mean a damn thing, and it'll be dead upon arrival.

    What do you think is pragmatically possible in America than to defund the police

  • May 21, 2021
    Smacked Voodoo

    Don't waste the time bruh. This a dude who been brainwashed by the idea of respectability politics actually getting anybody anywhere.

    There have been calls for police reform for decades and that s*** been getting ignored every step of the way.

    People don't give a f*** how you present your slogan. If it's something that takes power away from police it doesn't mean a damn thing, and it'll be dead upon arrival.

    Last paragraph is a real message, well said

  • May 21, 2021
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    The Young Blizzard

    Ok the make police just again was just a maga parody slogan I made up for the lols, I’ll admit that

    Conservatives have a much better messaging system, “pro-life” “maga” “family values”

    Yeah their dog whistles, but it get their voters engaged

    I get where you’re coming from but being unable to produce anything to replace it is where the thread ends. This is a copywriting issue not a political one right?

  • May 21, 2021
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    The Young Blizzard

    What do you think is pragmatically possible in America than to defund the police

    If "reform the police" and "stop killing us" didn't work, you're fighting an unwinnable battle. That's all there is to it.

  • May 21, 2021
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    Smacked Voodoo

    If "reform the police" and "stop killing us" didn't work, you're fighting an unwinnable battle. That's all there is to it.

    Than what?

    We should just have a Revolution/civil war?

  • Mango

    Only 1/3rd of Planned Parenthood's money is from federal sources. So if we're going to cry about sloganeering being inaccurate, it's inaccurate to say this defunds them entirely which is what it's being used as an example of in this thread.

    You're misunderstanding my point.

    The use of "defund" in the language of these bills refers to a full stoppage of funding from the primary agent, in this case the federal government. It is not cutting the budget nor is it not redirecting funds, which is what some proponents of "defund the police" are advocating for.

    Hence, the confusion for people who aren't paying attention, they think "defund the police" means no funding for them, which is not what everyone is advocating for.

  • CLDP

    I get where you’re coming from but being unable to produce anything to replace it is where the thread ends. This is a copywriting issue not a political one right?

    I agree

    I’m not gonna sit here and act like i know all the answers

    But defunding the police sends a really bad message to moderates in the party

    The dem party is big tent, we need the moderates, the gop has major advantages in every election system in our country

  • The Young Blizzard

    Ok the make police just again was just a maga parody slogan I made up for the lols, I’ll admit that

    Conservatives have a much better messaging system, “pro-life” “maga” “family values”

    Yeah their dog whistles, but it get their voters engaged

    No they don't, lol. MAGA is just as shyte as a slogan as "defund the police", it's just republicans have had much more unity, so they're historically more willing to act in lockstep with whatever "maga" or "pro life" means and not engage in purity testing and internal semantics that completely muddies what the slogan is even advocating for.

  • May 21, 2021
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    @localblaccmane Just say you want to Balkanize America, it’s ok

  • May 21, 2021
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    Awful is an understatement

  • Bill Ackman

    Awful is an understatement

    Some people in here jsut want a race war/violent Revolution 😂😂

  • May 21, 2021
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    The Young Blizzard

    @localblaccmane Just say you want to Balkanize America, it’s ok

    And you on here crying about trash slogans...

  • Smacked Voodoo

    And you on here crying about trash slogans...

    I bet last year you were one of the rioters during the protests hoping to larp your way into a Revolution

  • May 21, 2021
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    Smacked Voodoo

    If "reform the police" and "stop killing us" didn't work, you're fighting an unwinnable battle. That's all there is to it.

    Then what makes you think something sounds far more stupid like “defund the police” would work lmfao

  • May 21, 2021
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    The Young Blizzard

    Than what?

    We should just have a Revolution/civil war?

    The fact that you are immediately going the "race war"/revolution route is telling...

  • Smacked Voodoo

    The fact that you are immediately going the "race war"/revolution route is telling...

    I don’t see you putting a solution to selling police reform

    Abolishing the police will never be popular in America outside of D+20 districts

  • May 21, 2021
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    TL;DR this thread: OP is a pragmatic moderate with reactionary tendencies,

    idealists with more knowledge of theory inevitably butt heads,

    fireworks.

    Popcorn is $0.99 at the concessions stand

  • May 21, 2021
    Bill Ackman

    Then what makes you think something sounds far more stupid like “defund the police” would work lmfao

    If you ain't been following along with anything I've been saying itt keep quiet and speak when addressed.

  • Bill Ackman

    Then what makes you think something sounds far more stupid like “defund the police” would work lmfao

    Exactly

    No dem politician should never run on that outside of New York and California

  • May 21, 2021
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    I'm talking about just sticking with slogans because whether they get sold or not they get to the heart of what the issues are and this nigga in here on some "You want a race war!?" s***...nigga I'm f***in gone

  • May 21, 2021

    I mean OP is right

    If you have to explain your slogan it f***ing sucks as a slogan lol

    Defunding the police in theory is fine. But in reality you can’t brand it that way. Because what you’re really doing is reallocating typical police funding into policing alternatives.

  • May 21, 2021
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    Smacked Voodoo

    I'm talking about just sticking with slogans because whether they get sold or not they get to the heart of what the issues are and this nigga in here on some "You want a race war!?" s***...nigga I'm f***in gone

    I am a white man

    I f***ing hate it when people call me the n word, don’t every say that to me again

    I would bet my life savings on defunding/abolishing the police never being more than 30% popularity with voters

  • May 21, 2021
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    Decrease Police Funding. Its that simple to make a clearer slogan which means the same thing without scaring the people it needs to reach

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