The idiocy on this site baffles me every day

Really doesn't matter and it doesn't change my opinion of Jay.
Still need maximum stat padding from Drizzy

Y'all talk about jumping on the hottest wave but there are 2 points I think people tend to forget:
1 - Most of the time he makes songs before it was even a wave and since it's Drake and everything he does is magnified, he makes it the wave and it leads to criticism
2 - It's very risky to make a song like Work or One Dance and leave your "first sound"

Bro WHAT lmao

Jay was a complete wave rider lmao what are yall niggas talking about

That has nothing to do with hits. TC is his best album with his best songs, makes sense. That album doesn't have huge hits though. Its barely been 3-4 years and yet nobody plays One Dance or In My Feelings anymore lol Like a comment below that tweet said "Y'all gonna play Toosie Slide after Hard Knock Life and Ima laugh" lol

You clearly don’t know Jay Z history 🤣😂🤣😂 casual fan. Jay might be the first artist accused of wave riding. Do your Googles

Jay Z even flocked to hella white pop stars for hits (linkin park, Justin Timberlake, Chris MArtin, Robin Thicke etc etc) , Jay z flocked to younger artists on their hot streak

But when you’re great people want to work with you, I ain’t mad. You just sound salty about drake success and spouting out the usual boring critiques.

This thread proves me right when I say that all those accusations and arguments against a rapper now dont matter in the long term bc fans change history as it goes on lmao

Easily

I was not discrediting Drake. Drake in my opinion is the biggest “hit maker” of the century but I don’t believe it’s fair to discredit Jay Z because that’s an extremely high bar to meet.

How many years was Jay the hottest rapper alive?

2000-2002? I'm genuinely curious

Wayno and his wife slow danced to "Can't Knock The Hustle" at his wedding

What’s the problem? He does have more hits

RT

We all know what they mean to the culture

Ya I guess not even 02.

I cannot stress this enough but shut the f*** up

This is a flat out lie.

Again, lies. Jay Z's other musical peers were always bigger than him. Scoring bigger hits and selling more albums. He was never ever the #1 guy in rap and that says a lot. He just outlasted everybody, that's all.

Shut the f*** up about jumping waves like that isn't what Hov is known for doing. Like that isn't why he was able to last so long. Don't even start.

I'm dumbfounded. Niggas are just saying whatever in this thread. Trying to rewrite history in real time.

I swear Everything is more about the narratives now and less about what actually happened. It's crazy.

eminem was bigger worldwide around that time

then i would say 50 cent for a while

other huge rappers around that time were the game and nelly (lol), maybe even throw ja rule in there

kanye west around graduation era was the s***

and lil wayne around that C3 era

then we started the 2010s with drake and so on...

jay-z might have never been the #1 rapper but he was in the top 5 for so long

even during his height we had 2pac and biggie, then DMX....

Bruh, how many hits from 2013 till now do YOU still play? Of course songs from the 90's and early 00's have that classic throwback feel because they've had the time to age.

Drake wouldn't have been the #1 guy during that era either lmao prime 50, Ye, Luda, Jay, TI, Wayne and Em were monsters. Drake wouldve been like a Nelly, still huge but not THE guy.

The only thing Jay Z had over his peers that out peaked him is that he outlasted all of them, but he was never the biggest rapper in the game. Not even for a single year. There was always someone else in that position.

There’s a difference between “phoning flows in” and being able to ride every beat

I’ll let you figure out which one is Drake. Hint: you’re wrong