"I feel good sometimes I don't" is the most open to interpretation line ever. 9 billion people are on this planet and every last one of em can apply it to their lives. This is what separates drake from earl.

yeah exactly both cool in their own way. I like Earl's being pretentious and abstract the same way I like NBA Youngboy saying what's on his mind

Well what exactly makes someone more deep?

Seems kinda stupid no matter who you think is deeper tbfh.

yeah but a child could literally come up with that lol. there's not as much intricacy that's all I'm saying

when I'm feeling low sometimes a so-called "shallow" pop song can make me feel like I want to live. Is that not as deep of an experience as anything else? idk

Conveying ideas in a straightforward and clear way doesn’t make someone a worse writer. Same way very complex and technical expression isn’t inherently better writing. Both can be done well and both can be done poorly.

You can have your opinion on whether Drake or Earl succeeds better than the other at their respective styles but you cant say that simply because Earl is more complex that he is also better for that reason alone

the thing is that drake is straightforward and clear to a fault. Earl isn’t.

This actually might be a better take than op

Add this to op too

OP is wrong but genuinely has a point

its hard as f*** to write compelling meaningful lyrics that can appeal to a large majority for capturing the human condition

That’s fine if that’s your opinion I’m just saying neither style holds more inherent worth than the other

sure you can be basic and straightforward and clear in your lyrics but when it comes out as “i feel good sometimes i don’t” then you can’t really be praised as some intricate deep writer when you’re using elementary everyday vocabulary

what makes him different from the language we use at the end of the day if he’s at that point!

you could argue that earl is specific and abstract to a fault too though

poetry and a***ysis is great but to some extent I should be able to listen to a song 2-3 times and understand the general intention and meaning without having to read through lyrics and carefully a***yze

You're right, I guess what I was getting at is Earl's lyrics take a lot more dissecting. It all comes down to what you're looking for and how much time you want to spend deciphering it. While Drake a lot of the time literally expresses the theme, a rapper like Earl detours around it and uses more diverse elements of writing to reach said theme, generally speaking

BTW I'm a fan of both (most the time) <3

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there definitely is a limit to subjectivity and inherent worth in the world of art.

In a lot of the cases we’re talking about in mainstream music there’s little attempt to put something truly substantial in the air and instead it’s just completely ordinary and lackadaisical language being used with nothing beyond it. There’s no effort, there’s no intimacy. What is the worth to it then? What really gives it worth compared to what you’re hearing in a conversational context? There’s nothing.

yep exactly

nietzsche.holtof.com/Nietzsche_thus_spake_zarathustra/I_01.html

Earl is 100% a niche rapper who will never appeal to a wide audience, and doesn't seem to want to

some people like their lyrics so abstract that they can it interpret it in their own way

Agreed Toosie is deep

the comparison of innocence of the child to someone not caring about rap is like stupid asf here

i think there was some value to Drake's persona before his rebrand as a tough guy

"Drake confirms that the street-strutting bad boy “just looking for head in a comfortable bed,” is the other face of the desperately alone little boy lost crying to his mommy substitute. The boasting brute is always on the run from the helpless infant inside, but, for that very reason, the emotionally broken-down male isn’t an alternative to all the ego-armor posturing, so much as it is its enabling condition. Women are to be publicly disdained, treated as currency in a homosocial bragging economy; in private they are asked to make these wounded men whole again. Is there a track that has exposed the real nature of the male-to-female love song better than Take Care‘s “Marvin’s Room”? The conceit—a drunk Drake leaving a phone message to a long lost love he treated badly but now thinks he wants back—leaves us in no doubt that he was speaking to himself via a fantasized female Other."

I mean yea definitely and drake is the complete opposite. he constantly needs to appeal to that wide audience which is why he won't lock down on a single sound and won't go niche lyrically

its just different ends of the spectrum

ok I give up how does this relate bro

Why do yall keep doing these troll threads with earl of all people?

bro thinks im gonna read about a guy wanting to f*** his mom cmon now