dissociatives are the easiest way to force yourself into the good "nothing matters" headspace, you are able to look at yourself and your life from a third person perspective and realize that most of your sadness or fear is you building it up inside your own head and there are still infinite opportunities for you to make changes, after the high is over there is a very peaceful afterglow where you are easily able to reflect on your experience and think about things in your life that are due for change and come up with new goals
ketamine therapy is the only effective treatment against treatment resistant depression at the moment, and it is administered in a few doses every week or two generally with a therapist for a month or two, rather than a daily medication like an ssri which are not effective for many and come with lots of side effects
i recommend doing this with at a treatment center but it isnt necessary as long as you are following some sort of schedule and putting in effort to reflect on yourself and improve, if you have an addictive personality talk to a professional
the program i'm in gives me 6 doses. i've only done the first one and already i'm seeing the neurological benefits
whats your schedule and dosage like? are you seeing a therapist as well? also have you done ket recreationally before?
Gym, running, and playing basketball early in the am definitely motivates me to do a whole bunch of stuff throughout the day. Also going to networking functions often and hanging around a lot of people that have businesses, ownership stake in certain companies, etc definitely push me to improve myself and do more things as well. I ain’t even gonna cap Microdosing on shrooms from time to time may definitely help you too 🙏🏾
whats your schedule and dosage like? are you seeing a therapist as well? also have you done ket recreationally before?
i just started last thursday. i make my own schedule for when i take it, bc i'm on a lot of other meds, i was told to do it on a day when i don't take meds, so i usually wait for the weekend/friday for it
i see a psychiatrist, but i've started wean off her as i've been doing better/don't need to see her as much
no, never done it recreationally. but the setting in which i used it was amazing and it was a low dose (150). my next two experiences will be at a higher dose (300) so i expect an even better experience
i just started last thursday. i make my own schedule for when i take it, bc i'm on a lot of other meds, i was told to do it on a day when i don't take meds, so i usually wait for the weekend/friday for it
i see a psychiatrist, but i've started wean off her as i've been doing better/don't need to see her as much
no, never done it recreationally. but the setting in which i used it was amazing and it was a low dose (150). my next two experiences will be at a higher dose (300) so i expect an even better experience
id suggest talking to her about your experience and also journaling on your comedown or the next day, that time for reflection while you arent super high but your thoughts are still flowing very freely are really nice
mg? thats a lot more than i expected lol
at a point now where i genuinely do not care about s***. not health, not money, not college, not nobody, not the world, nothin
like nothing makes a difference and nothing can fulfil me
feel like spending my entire days in bed bc i dont care to get up or do s***
i wanna get out of this
Me too
Learn to enjoy the struggle and figure out how you can make your situation better
Sadly with the pandemic this isn't in our hands and all we can do is maintain our health alright and pray for better things
omg this thread is f***ing horrible lol
so sorry @op this sxn is littered with idiots with no personality other than gimmicks.
Well yea, they didn’t go see someone means they aren’t taking it that seriously right? So why should I take it that seriously? If you thought you had cancer, would you just chill at home?
This a***ogy doesn't work because depression is a mental disorder, one of these symptoms is anhedonia which can cause people to lose the motivation to even go see a doctor. Then there's also the stigma around mental health, especially within certain cultures. People who have had bad experiences with therapy in the past. And of course financial hurdles. To reduce it to not taking it seriously enough is extremely short-sighted.
No, it’s not short sighted bc like I said, if you think you have cancer you’d go see a doctor regardless of all them factors you just said
The truth is that peoples perception of cancer and perception of depression is different so they may take one more seriously than the other
And it doesn’t make sense to bring up all the outliers or anomalies instead of talk about the average/typical person. The average income in the US is like $35k
That’s plenty enough to go see someone
And I don’t wanna hear about bills, cost of living, blah blah blah bc those are all excuses. The truth is that everyone wants to have their cake and eat it too and not have to sacrifice. And financial literacy/wellbeing is basically the underlying factor of almost all social problems like this, which almost all of that information is freely available to the typical person through the internet
You care enough to realize thar this feeling of apathy bothers you
I’m not one to talk because I’m still in the early stages of doing this myself, but imo its on yourself to find or make meaning out of all of this. There may not be a grand truth or point to all this but there are a million little truths each day that keep us going. Idk. Taking a step back from the things you’re told to care about may help, give you some breathing room.
But you can find yours, you’re too passionate of a poster to succumb to the apathy lol
No, it’s not short sighted bc like I said, if you think you have cancer you’d go see a doctor regardless of all them factors you just said
The truth is that peoples perception of cancer and perception of depression is different so they may take one more seriously than the other
And it doesn’t make sense to bring up all the outliers or anomalies instead of talk about the average/typical person. The average income in the US is like $35k
That’s plenty enough to go see someone
And I don’t wanna hear about bills, cost of living, blah blah blah bc those are all excuses. The truth is that everyone wants to have their cake and eat it too and not have to sacrifice. And financial literacy/wellbeing is basically the underlying factor of almost all social problems like this, which almost all of that information is freely available to the typical person through the internet
No, it’s not short sighted bc like I said, if you think you have cancer you’d go see a doctor regardless of all them factors you just said
What a f***ing braindead take, maybe because those factors don't f***ing apply to cancer??? I was literally talking about things specific to depression. Anhedonia is literally a symptom of depression ffs
Not even gonna respond to that ignorant nonsense about the financial aspect
you're applying a moral marker to imperfection in a universe where morality is a concept only exhibited by us humans
i could simply say perfection is the true evil in that its unattainable.
it's baseless and dogmatic to imply such a thing. Rather, we must understand that the universe has no obligation to elaborate upon itself to us. each person must find their own meaning within the material world they experience. if you wanna be spiritual, go right ahead. but that means you're pulling from abstract and improbable ideals like the presence of immaterial consciousness
i get it though. its hard to tackle meaninglessness when our entire lives are centered around fulfilling a percieved purpose
materialism is a useful a***ytic tool but it isnt a correct metaphysics
most credible philosophers of consciousness are slowly adopting/have already adopted the position that it is unlikely to be reducible to material processes, and for good reason IMO
panpsychism, idealism, or even dualism are all way more viable at this point