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  • Beamo23 šŸø
    Apr 19, 2023
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    shaleirose

    I agree that they were probably made during the same recording sessions, but I think he always knew for the most part which songs would be on Endless and which songs would be on Blonde.

    Endless is a lot more formless & experimental whereas Blonde is more structured & airy.

    Endless feels like one long stream of consciousness and Blonde is a lot more of a statement piece.

    Endless is like a collection of scatterbrained ideas while each song on Blonde feels like a very significant and purposeful vignette of Frank’s past.

    I think that was very intentional and that Frank had a distinct idea from the get-go of what he wanted each project to be

    I thought Blonde was all done in LA/Malibu and London studios, and Endless was hotel rooms in Japan/Paris etc.

    Could be 100% wrong tho

  • Apr 19, 2023
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    THIS is a headlining setlist
    setlist.fm/setlist/jayz/2010/empire-polo-club-indio-ca-bd4f9c2.html
    I was there btw :)

  • Apr 19, 2023
    sendme

    THIS is a headlining setlist
    https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/jayz/2010/empire-polo-club-indio-ca-bd4f9c2.html
    I was there btw :)

    Perfect

  • Apr 19, 2023
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    Beamo23

    I thought Blonde was all done in LA/Malibu and London studios, and Endless was hotel rooms in Japan/Paris etc.

    Could be 100% wrong tho

    Actually you might be right

    A quick search of where the two albums were recorded:

    Blonde:
    Abbey Road, London
    Electric Lady, New York City
    Henson, Los Angeles

    Endless:
    Capitol, Hollywood
    The Mercer Hotel, SoHo
    MSR, New York City
    Abbey Road, London
    Conway, Hollywood
    Shangri La, Miami
    Wolfgang Tillmans' home, Berlin
    TRIXX, Berlin
    Studio G, Brooklyn
    EastWest, Hollywood
    Setai, South Beach
    Hotel Bel-Air, Bel Air

    The only overlap here is Abbey Road, maybe they actually were recorded in separate sessions

    Unless the initial writings for each song were done in the same sessions and then the recordings were finalized at different studios around the world

  • shaleirose

    Actually you might be right

    A quick search of where the two albums were recorded:

    Blonde:
    Abbey Road, London
    Electric Lady, New York City
    Henson, Los Angeles

    Endless:
    Capitol, Hollywood
    The Mercer Hotel, SoHo
    MSR, New York City
    Abbey Road, London
    Conway, Hollywood
    Shangri La, Miami
    Wolfgang Tillmans' home, Berlin
    TRIXX, Berlin
    Studio G, Brooklyn
    EastWest, Hollywood
    Setai, South Beach
    Hotel Bel-Air, Bel Air

    The only overlap here is Abbey Road, maybe they actually were recorded in separate sessions

    Unless the initial writings for each song were done in the same sessions and then the recordings were finalized at different studios around the world

    I imagine that the final version of each album were recorded at the aforementioned studios. He was most likely working on all these songs everywhere at different times, etc.

  • Apr 19, 2023

    even I thought it was well understood that Endless was the result of scattershot studio sessions and field recordings

  • Apr 19, 2023
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    shaleirose

    I agree that they were probably made during the same recording sessions, but I think he always knew for the most part which songs would be on Endless and which songs would be on Blonde.

    Endless is a lot more formless & experimental whereas Blonde is more structured & airy.

    Endless feels like one long stream of consciousness and Blonde is a lot more of a statement piece.

    Endless is like a collection of scatterbrained ideas while each song on Blonde feels like a very significant and purposeful vignette of Frank’s past.

    I think that was very intentional and that Frank had a distinct idea from the get-go of what he wanted each project to be

    Both are airy lol

    The projects are curated and executed in a very different way. That is what’s making you feel that way. The songs themselves, there is a lot of overlap in topics and even instrumentation: both aren’t really drum heavy and mostly organic instrumentation (many tracks and moments are just a keyboard or a guitar and Frank). There is more electronic elements kept on Endless. Blonde obviously was cleaned up and finished more, fleshed out into full songs where as Endless tracks, essentially the B sides, were kind of kept in demo form and stitched together in an extremely thrilling way that made them transcend a b sides collection

    The lyrical themes I already mentioned, Endless has a lot of the same nostalgic narrative feeling that blond carries. I really just think you’re projecting your feelings about the art onto the creative process.. Wither, Alabama, and Higgs, would not be out of place on Blond by any means, even At Your Best fits the sonic palette pretty well

    Then there’s Close To You, Pretty Sweet, Good Guy, the Blond interludes which feel very Endless in some ways. Nikes and Futura Free are not far off from Mitsubishi Sony, UNITY, and Sideways. There’s so much overlap as neither project is just one thing

    Last thing I’ll touch on is how there was different versions of each track, Frank would write a song like White Ferrari or Ivy and experiment with completely different production styles for them. Now we know there’s an electronic version of White Ferrari in addition to the rock version: some elements of both survived on the official version, but we never really know what any of the Blond songs originally sounded like. My conclusion from that is, most of what separates Blond and Endless isn’t fundamental to the songs themselves, but rather the final production and execution of ideas.

  • Apr 19, 2023
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    sendme

    I know I was wrong, most were live debuts tho. How much time was dedicated to endless that night? two minutes?

    About like 3 or 4 minutes, what about it

  • Apr 19, 2023
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    Q3D

    About like 3 or 4 minutes, what about it

    draw your own conclusions

  • Apr 19, 2023
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    craziest part was this guy singing into the joe rogan podcast mic without the pop shield

  • Apr 19, 2023
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  • Apr 19, 2023
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    2words

    Both are airy lol

    The projects are curated and executed in a very different way. That is what’s making you feel that way. The songs themselves, there is a lot of overlap in topics and even instrumentation: both aren’t really drum heavy and mostly organic instrumentation (many tracks and moments are just a keyboard or a guitar and Frank). There is more electronic elements kept on Endless. Blonde obviously was cleaned up and finished more, fleshed out into full songs where as Endless tracks, essentially the B sides, were kind of kept in demo form and stitched together in an extremely thrilling way that made them transcend a b sides collection

    The lyrical themes I already mentioned, Endless has a lot of the same nostalgic narrative feeling that blond carries. I really just think you’re projecting your feelings about the art onto the creative process.. Wither, Alabama, and Higgs, would not be out of place on Blond by any means, even At Your Best fits the sonic palette pretty well

    Then there’s Close To You, Pretty Sweet, Good Guy, the Blond interludes which feel very Endless in some ways. Nikes and Futura Free are not far off from Mitsubishi Sony, UNITY, and Sideways. There’s so much overlap as neither project is just one thing

    Last thing I’ll touch on is how there was different versions of each track, Frank would write a song like White Ferrari or Ivy and experiment with completely different production styles for them. Now we know there’s an electronic version of White Ferrari in addition to the rock version: some elements of both survived on the official version, but we never really know what any of the Blond songs originally sounded like. My conclusion from that is, most of what separates Blond and Endless isn’t fundamental to the songs themselves, but rather the final production and execution of ideas.

    The conclusion you came to is why I think Frank had two distinct projects in mind from the get-go. Yes they do share similarities but the projects are very unique from one another though even though they may be alike in some ways. That doesn’t feel like a coincidence to me.

    All those shorter songs/interludes you name feel very representative of the projects they landed on.

    Mitsubishi Sony, Unity, Sideways are all feel like streams of consciousness, whereas Close to You, Good Guy, and the Blonde interludes feel like retellings of very specific and significant moments in Frank’s adolescence

  • Apr 19, 2023
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    sendme

    if it’s so good why doesn’t he perform any of those songs and why did he call it a throwaway album

    tiktok/youtube shorts take

  • Apr 19, 2023
    safe

    https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/10k7AlPmFwdHwVLb9q1HJRiO5TNWQogWS

    thank you

  • Apr 19, 2023
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    cotton

    tiktok/youtube shorts take

    then why’d you quote it twice

  • Apr 19, 2023
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    MiniVan

    craziest part was this guy singing into the joe rogan podcast mic without the pop shield

    sm7b is goated

  • Apr 19, 2023
    sendme

    draw your own conclusions

    My conclusion is that uuuh idk

  • Apr 19, 2023
    justnumbers

    sm7b is goated

    crazy that a relatively inexpensive, mid tier mic is still so widely used by top artists and podcasters

  • Apr 19, 2023
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    shaleirose

    The conclusion you came to is why I think Frank had two distinct projects in mind from the get-go. Yes they do share similarities but the projects are very unique from one another though even though they may be alike in some ways. That doesn’t feel like a coincidence to me.

    All those shorter songs/interludes you name feel very representative of the projects they landed on.

    Mitsubishi Sony, Unity, Sideways are all feel like streams of consciousness, whereas Close to You, Good Guy, and the Blonde interludes feel like retellings of very specific and significant moments in Frank’s adolescence

    It’s not a coincidence, it’s because they were finished very differently. I believe the main differences you’re hearing are in the final execution of sequencing the material, it’s not inherent in the material itself.

  • Apr 19, 2023
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    2words

    It’s not a coincidence, it’s because they were finished very differently. I believe the main differences you’re hearing are in the final execution of sequencing the material, it’s not inherent in the material itself.

    Yes but that’s why I’m getting at. Is that Frank had two separate projects in mind from the jump and finished each project as needed.

    I disagree about the material itself, I think there are very distinct differences between Endless and Blonde that goes past just the way it’s sequenced

  • We REALLY need a new album.

  • Apr 19, 2023
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    sendme

    then why’d you quote it twice

    I like talkin to bad opinion people

  • Apr 19, 2023
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    I always wonder if those studios like Electric Lady are actually worth the price or if it’s just a cultural significance thing

  • Apr 19, 2023
    bread

    I always wonder if those studios like Electric Lady are actually worth the price or if it’s just a cultural significance thing

    more intrinsic / sentimental value than anything