Just watched this video and been wondering, feels like hip hop artists are only really concerned with conforming to one image these days and not really looking at society and critiquing it or trying at all to lead the youth anymore, everyone just hopping trends. I'm sure a lot of people feel this way. I f*** with the new music coming out it just feels devoid of any real content and is only concerned with posturing.

yeah it's soulless garbage

S*** always been just noise

Dave out now!

Saw this vid yesterday and thought about making a thread but felt like y’all would say these are OD

He’s spot on especially when he started quoting the drake verses from back then and then compared it to what people gas up now. 8 AM Charlotte was nice though

This kinda goes into a bigger issue of all of these subjective type convos about culture and social issues devolving into ad hominem group think where if you don’t have _ opinion you are _ (you don’t like new rap so you are washed or a hater of said artist)

And also everyone just makes their version of whatever the hottest thing is, to an extent in the mainstream

"Drake is like McDonald's of the music industry"
niggas still using this argument

99% of it has become nothing more than something to sneer at every day while your soul rots inside of you

yall ok? i thought i was depressed

He's right about a lot here. Don't know how you can say the mainstream rap landscape isn't pretty soulless right now.

It's funny bc u can't not talk about Drake if ur talking about mainstream rap but also his career proves this. There's so much more humanity I can hear between TC-IYRTITL (maybe even Views) that isn't there anymore and I feel like it's representative of what's happened in general. A lot of artists today really are trying to make what the algorithm says will be successful or emulating what's already been established by better artists

Idk no one has balls anymore

cause the dudes that have balls are never heard of because they don't blow and are relegated to a bandcamp page

Wasn't always like that tho, the underground had much more of an influence even ten years ago even if the artist had no mainstream viability. Like we both know who spaceghostpurrp is lmao

true. sad thing is the game has become a lot more centralized and these new generation of zoomers aren't technologically savvy enough to find new music like we did in the blog era. Dudes just accept any garbage that is fed to them on streaming services and put on a "playlist"

It's sad because labels have more power than ever, wasn't supposed to be this way.

???

that was lowkey racist but y'all just gonna let that slide huh?

we don't give attention or energy to negativity like that

Yeah I always have a hard time explaining this but I feel like the decentralization of music caused more centralization.

We can listen to whatever no matter where we are. it's not like I'm in Houston so I listen to like Z-Ro and s*** and that's my taste anymore, instead every rapper is competing for the same market share (local scenes aren't as much of a thing today as they used to be imo) so I just want to sound like the most popular guy no matter where we each are from. That's why the whole idea of a regional sound is falling away. Like where tf is Yeat from lol

nah we gotta get dorks like that out of here

i aint finna let ktt be gentrified by people that don't even love hip hop

Like always some of it is, but I think based on the first video this guy will not say anything noteworthy or interesting on the topic, because Drake has never been the guy for interesting or nuanced social critique

Exactly. It used to be the "nerds" who would break artists and find them online because the other people didn't know how to scour blogs to see what's poppin or brewing

Now every dumb ass who thinks his opinion matters can just tune in at 12 on thursday night and have an opinion even though they probably don't even give a f*** about music like that anyway

we're literally catering to the lowest common denominator at this point

TLDR: actual music heads used to decide what got buzz back in the day, these days any moron has a say

and Yeat is from LA my guy

I feel negativity only grows if you give attention to it, if everyone in the thread completely just ignored the comment then it's essentially cut at the root, in my eyes at least

People say this but SFG/TML kinda was in its own way. It just wasn’t conscious social issues s*** people tend to associate with “deeper” lyrics

What songs in particular would you say, I can't really remember any social commentary he's made on a song that made me think for more than a second

I just be vibing

I’d have to go back thru those projects but he’d speak on like the mentalities and intricate parts of his own/the general chase of success and he’d have the specific lines about that for like women I guess songs like lust for life or houstatlantavegas. Vid in op says it better but basically s*** that was relatable for a young person in school or just grinding. Lol I have vague lines in my head from back then from him that say “semester” but it’s blurry