I think people really need to understand that the world started dying the moment it was created...not everything is meant to last forever and you are meant to make the most of what little time you have as fulfilling as possible.

okay maybe for the reasons you think lmao

Man y'all really found a way to paint having children as wrong/immoral, that children is the root of the problems in society.

You know I find it very odd y'all are willing to follow this line of thinking proposed by elites in the world who a kidnapping...you know what? Y'all figure it out.

So why are we here? The world was dying when our parents had us. Why are our parents here? Grandparents etc. life is not about that at all

And no a child is not a child. You know the trauma foster children go through? You realize whether you want to admit it or not you have a connection with the people who are “literally just your chromosomes” right?

How can children be the root of the problem when it’s the parents that force existence on them

From a social aspect ? Yes. But realistically having kids is immoral regardless of a social/financial aspect.

Your offspring has a greater chance of making the world a worse place rather than better.

Define “worse”

Dude...shut up lmao

Financial inequality, global warming, crime, and social inequality (racism, sexism, homophobia/transphobia)

Besides social inequality those are all pretty subjective

Couldn’t be me

Exactly there are children with trauma in the system hoping for a family while I understand people would want made a child that looks like them or is their own flesh and all that it seems just as moral if not more to save a child that doesn’t have a family

We have plenty of people to continue the human race so people shouldn’t act like it’s their sole purpose to continue that

If you want to have kids sure go ahead but at the same time a bunch of people aren’t ready for the stuff that comes with them same with adopting

The process of becoming and being pregnant = expensive and body ruining

Birthing= huge medical bill/ body ruining
AND THATS ALL TO JUST HAVE THE BABY

You think adopting a child with trauma and raising them is that simple? It’s not.

Having a child or adoption has nothing to do with morals. Neither is “continuing the human race”. They are thinking of raising that human being and connecting with them.

What do you mean body ruining? A woman gains some weight and her breasts change? You consider that body ruining? Who cares about the cost? You act like it’s bank breaking

Your body is literally not the same after having a child but okay you make it some simple

I’m not saying it’s simple either I’m just saying people naturally don’t want to put that work in for that child that’s why adopting isnt a popular option when it should be

Bruh that OP/topic is about how this could be a moral/ethical thing

My kid will not likely impact any of these issues in a meaningful way, positive or negative. Only a relative few ever will.

At best, the average person can aspire to positively impact their immediate circle and strangers they come into contact with by being empathetic and charitable. A smaller percentage might be provided a platform for the issues aforementioned, but most won't.

We are, in isolation, of infinitesimal significance to systemic and global concerns. It's depressing but takes the pressure off.

Wanna show me what you mean by that

Trauma is not that simple. Adopting is simply not more ethical than having your own. And op is dumbass anyway

Financial inequality
ourworldindata.org/grapher/world-population-in-extreme-poverty-absolute?stackMode=relative

Global warming
this is more related to policies necessary to combat climate change and CO2 emissions (i personally would like to see a carbon tax implemented)

crime and social inequality
i don't see the correlation at all

malthus in shambles

The worst thing you can do for the planet rn is bring another human being onto it

For some people they can have babies easily while adopting is a process which people have to go to classes and be trained because the children can be difficult/traumatic/have issues

If the majority of people can hardly handle their own child why do you think they can handle those? the ethical thing would just make foster homes much better than currently. Foster parents and adopties can be absolutely evil people

I think we can all agree that most KTT posters should not procreate.

some of y’all really against having kids