Imo, I’m siding with Hit-Boy on this one. Kanye is a d*** lol

Only music "nerds" do & beat tags were created BECAUSE artists/labels wouldnt give proper credit n payment fairly regularly lol

If youre unknown nowadays a beat tag is important especially since most producers are mostly independent & not label or company signed

A producer since mid 2010s has to do everything for themselves to get up & has to wear many hats b

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Loser mentality
crying about getting passed ofc he finds a way to make it Ye’s fault

When else has he used this?

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Yes it is

even among the most popular producers, they still won’t as be well-known even WITH hot beats unless they have a tag

Did you see my first post? There are other ways to put your stamp on a beat. Whether it's an artist saying it or a signature sound. By acknowledging there are other ways to have an identity as a producer, you are undermining your case.

And at the end of the day it doesn't matter if the average person knows your name. Producing is networking with artists and labels. How many flop singles tried to ride the notoriety of a producer and failed anyway? That Ferg/Neptunes song is heinous

Only on KTT will you hear someone say some geek s*** like this

“a signature sound” is basically a producer tag lol

& how tf is “the artist saying your name on the beat” not more disrupting towards the song than having a producer tag in the beginning?

you’re just making up a bunch of excuses to see black men go uncredited for their work all throughout this thread

He only used it on 3 songs (really only 2, since one of those songs is unreleased) or maybe more if u have more examples, but u can hardly call that a producer tag, can easily chop this up as a sfx he likes to use

Shut up b****

Shouting out or talking to the engineer before rapping > producer tags

yeah having your signature sound >>> having beat tags

F***ing love gossip files

avi

I also think that while hitboy has produced a lot of huge singles he’s never been a go to collaborator for an artist it seems (not counting this new big Sean stuff). Like metro has a brand bc he helped create and shape a Lot of ATL rappers sound and kept working with them over time. I think the tags def help when you’re starting off but metro was able to make a popular compilation tape not bc of his tags but bc of his connections and signature sound

I’ve given metro so many chances, mans is consistently mid

Okay, now you're just being a d***head. The idea that anyone on a rap music website would seriously want "black men to go uncredited for their work" is laughable. I've said before that I think the producer's name should be in the artist tags. God knows they're carrying more mid rappers than ever.

See my original post in this thread. The subject of the argument is "should artists have producer tags" and a ton of successful producers do not. We just agreed there are other ways to maintain an identity as a producer. Some producers mainly work for one artist or group of artists anyway. You're the one trying to police producers in this discussion.

Tags can be cool or lame. If he had a cool tag like Wheezy or Metro he would definetely be more famous=more rich.

What he look like tagging some s*** Jeff Bhasker and Mike Dean made 70% of anyway

Mike Will I guess