yes in 2011

im saying in the last 5 years hes had tags all over his s*** but not on HITS

Weird

This is why Kanye is washed.

"The first beat I played him was the Nas one; Kanye sat there and listened for like 10 seconds and he pressed stop and he was like: 'It's cool, but jazz is dead."

mtv.com/news/1903598/statik-selektah-kanye-west-what-goes-around

so for producers who aren’t personally working with vocalists, it’s okay for their names to be more difficult to find than the vocalists’ names? why should the vocalist have to shout out the producer themselves on the song? that breaks the 4th wall in the music & can take you out of the space it’s supposed to put you in

17 pages cause ik all the producers on ktt got something to say about this

Didn’t he have that Hit-Boy robot voice tag? That was nice. It wasn’t to much and it was simple..

He could’ve kept that, until he was big enough to leave it alone.

HB doesn’t even have a signature style..

Okay, well I just said I think the producer's name should be right alongside the rappers. That skirts the issue entirely.

If he still made beats as good as Clique or Niggas In Paris we wouldn't be having this conversation, but he just keeps conveyer belting out these middle of the road beats instead of working smarter. His beats sound like he got a permanent chip on his shoulder

should be but it isn’t

so, while this problem exists, your stance is that production credits should be even LESS easy to find than they already are

Please quote any sentence from any of my posts in this thread that you think says that. Do you have brain damage

Hard disagree with first sentence. There's a lot of girls around my age and younger who listen to no other music except BTS. Even then, it's probably not even full albums. Maybe Doja Cat hits or whatever else is popping too. But as you said earlier, casual in comparison to people like KTT users

Read your posts earlier ITT, then read your third paragraph again. You said he's known amongst casuals, he's a festival headliner and his tag is the best part of the song to them. Now they just know the tag? Anyway, I can almost guarantee that TRUE casuals don't even know the purpose of a tag or that it's like a producer's signature. I deadass had someone in 2015 ask me why so many songs begin with Mustardonthebeathoe That's what I meant when I said most casuals wouldn't be able to answer if you asked them who produced FSMH. Even if they heard and know the tag, they don't know what it means

This entire discussion started because I said Kendrick made Ali one of the most recognized sound engineers because of all the mentions - it's different for sound engineers because even people into music don't know sound engineers. Members on this site could list 20 producers for you easily. Doubt they could do the same for sound engineers

white men love that pierre tag more than anyone else tho

Sean and ye still cool tho

So says Sean.. I just doubt it though.

if your stance is “producers shouldn’t use tags” then your stance is that they shouldn’t be guaranteed proper credit on the beats they make

there is no guarantee that the artist will shout them out (and it’s extremely unlikely that they would in the first place)

in your perfect utopia where production credits are easy to find on whichever platform you use to play music, sure, that stance makes sense

however, in the real world we live in, your stance translates to “i don’t want producers getting proper recognition for their work”

Tbh he shoulda just used a baseball bat hitting a home run SFX lol

would have been the perfect late 00’s/early 2000’s tag

I say that s*** all the time lmao

not really recognizable tbh

he did have that hov "kanye you a genius" tag but kept it on mixtapes

imagine if that was on every kanye beat

Half of its job imo. The tag is almost useless if you still don't know who the producer is. Like the nigga I knew in high school who heard "Mustardonthebeathoe" - he'd heard it on multiple songs but had no idea one guy produced all those songs or who that guy is

He dropped fanasty yeezus and Pablo after he said that so how was he washed

Eh. I’m kinda split on this.

Great tags are iconic but they cheapen them music overall. Gives it a mixtape feel rather than a polished piece of music.