ChristLike

1y

That isn't what I said at all. I just explained why a situation like this ended this way and why not many people rushed to intervene and tell him to let go or anything like that

You asked for a "more" to the story because I'm guessing you found it hard to believe someone wanted to subdue an individual for yelling and erratic behavior. People are very worried about stuff like this in NYC

I agree that it should be a manslaughter charge

ChristLike

1y

That isn't what I said at all. I just explained why a situation like this ended this way and why not many people rushed to intervene and tell him to let go or anything like that

You asked for a "more" to the story because I'm guessing you found it hard to believe someone wanted to subdue an individual for yelling and erratic behavior. People are very worried about stuff like this in NYC

I agree that it should be a manslaughter charge

DARE IZ A DARKSIDE

1y

That's truthfully f***ed up and very sad that this happened, but you have to admit, the video looks a bit like Jack Harlow has Sean Price in a full nelson

Mountain Dude

1y

What's everyone's opinion on bringing back mental hospitals if people are clearly going through life threatening issues like this? Reagan (I believe) basically abolished these and let all these people out to the public.

999Wrld

1y

And under no circumstances should a normal civilian take it in their hands to restrain someone and then for 15 minutes at that? This is no different from George Floyd, stop justifying choking people out like dogs cuz self righteous cacs wanna play Batman.

Yeah he was acting erratic that’s not a gotcha. Guess what it still doesn’t justify him being murdered. So the whole “I’m sure someone is glad a guy stepped in” is pathetic

And you asking for more cops on a subway without addressing the housing crisis, putting adequate money into mental health and general health services, gentrification and the media’s portrayal of homelessness you’re just going to inevitable lead to more situations like this

And by and large, women and minorities make up the largest number of homeless people. So whether you think so or not, you saying throw more cops at the issue ignorantly is telling those people to f*** off.

Because cops don’t care about fixing the homeless problem, they just want to remove the problem off the streets. Whether it be by force, making it illegal to be homeless thru legislation, anti-homeless structures

So when none of these issues go addressed, and people without homes are put into more and more contact with those who do, yeah these things are going to become more common.

Mountain Dude

1y

What's everyone's opinion on bringing back mental hospitals if people are clearly going through life threatening issues like this? Reagan (I believe) basically abolished these and let all these people out to the public.

ChristLike

1y

I understand what you're saying bro. But if he had him in a chokehold for 15 minutes that's at least 2 stops. There are civilians in the car that said this could've been avoided in police responded within 5 mins like they're supposed to

Yes, normal people should not have to take things into their own hands, but if there's no police around and someone is yelling about not caring about going to jail and threatening people in an enclosed space? Eventually something bad is gonna happen and that's what we got here

Of course I agree that we need housing, mental health services, more accessible health care, etc. But these things are gonna take years and decades to fix up. Putting cops on the subway takes minimal effort and has proved to reduce crime and make people feel safer. It's a quick band aid fix while they work on the preventative measures.

Regardless this guy will most definitely face charges eventually as he should. Self defense laws in NYC are pretty terrible to begin with and you can't just choke someone to death over threats

ChristLike

1y

I understand what you're saying bro. But if he had him in a chokehold for 15 minutes that's at least 2 stops. There are civilians in the car that said this could've been avoided in police responded within 5 mins like they're supposed to

Yes, normal people should not have to take things into their own hands, but if there's no police around and someone is yelling about not caring about going to jail and threatening people in an enclosed space? Eventually something bad is gonna happen and that's what we got here

Of course I agree that we need housing, mental health services, more accessible health care, etc. But these things are gonna take years and decades to fix up. Putting cops on the subway takes minimal effort and has proved to reduce crime and make people feel safer. It's a quick band aid fix while they work on the preventative measures.

Regardless this guy will most definitely face charges eventually as he should. Self defense laws in NYC are pretty terrible to begin with and you can't just choke someone to death over threats

999Wrld

1y

And more cops?

It’s crazy every time these issues get brought up it’s always the same

“Man x,y,z is too long or will take time”

“I’m in the meantime, throw more cops at it”

Haven’t we heard this for like 10 years or so now, definitely more.

Doesn’t NYC have one of the most funded police units in the world? Bro if they can’t handle it MORE cops will not help.

Literally delusion and asking for more terror on marginalized communities.

Faith

1y

There’s clearly a mental health crisis something needs to happen.

A lady tried to open a plane door while it was in the air. They duck taped her ass to the seats

ChristLike

1y

The more is that this is NYC and situations like this can go wrong in a heartbeat and as citizens and subway riders we are always on high alert when it comes to aggressive homeless individuals

Unfortunate that he passed away but I'm sure most straphangers were appreciative that someone intervened and eased their minds

I doubt most people ITT live in the city and understand the climate. Regardless I believe he will eventually face charges of some sort.

Dynamic Uno Music

1y

@Resurrection talk like he the only nigga that lives here.

Ive seen homeless people punching windows with so much force on the late night E train it had people standing up out of shookness. Been on the (safe side) of a cab where people ended up running over to my side cause a homeles dude whipped his d*** out and started pissing.

Hell I got chased by a drunk vagrant once due to miscommunication for like 3 blocks until I made it to Lorimer L stop.

Kno what the common theme is?

Nobody in either of them scenarios had to die, or get choked out for FIFTEEN minutes.

They’re mentally ILL. Dont think you know what that means clearly.

This the same mentality that had dumbasses that dont live here think it was ok for cops to kill that homeless person on Montgomery and Utica Ave for basically pointing a broken pipe at random people (“LiKe It iS a GuN”) whereas everyone in that community that knew him around the area was outraged.

This NIMBY attitude is hilarious. And NLC leaving out that they was cops on that platform where shawty got pushed on to the tracks is typical NIMBY behavior.