Watching folks cry about this Coachella s*** is too funny

Niggas really hurt 🤣

Unspoken truth lol

No disrespect to and not directed at OP but music discussion is obnoxious nowadays. If I were a musician, I’d quit. Everyone is about to talk about how much Frank Ocean sucks and kept us waiting for nothing for the next few days. Musicians don’t owe us anything. Stop being a fan, fine, but don’t go revising your opinions on everything he’s ever done.

Frank is one of them ones because he’s outside the algorithm, because he couldn’t care less what we think a la Prince.

Also, you hear Frank’s influence everywhere. Pyramids influeced the multiple song breakdown style (Sicko Mode) and Blonde introduced pitched vocals to represent youth (Pain is Inevitable).

If he dropped something of substance today y'all would change your tune doesn't matter though because he won't

Dude barely got charting songs or sales compared to people who have headlined and he’s headlining coachella what do you think?

Frank Ocean is an amazing artist but yes some of the love does feel superficial and part of an ‘aesthetic’. Not his fault tho

Am I a vapid fake-deep male art hoe?

imagine, the world needs more both lmao

frank ocean is that dude. i think PND is underrated but idk he doesn’t have a Thinkin Bout You, Swim Good, Novacane, White Ferrari. He’s just different can’t describe it otherwise

Blonde slander is CRAZY, I'm not having that

Really, Kanye is the culprit of all of this in hiphop. Better days when rappers just wanted to be the best or toughest rappers

overrated artist. underrated cock ring salesman.

Because despite his bad manners he dropped 2 classics in one decade.

fr frank doesn’t have to drop music anymore if he wants to drop bust down cock rings and ride his bike thru manhattan in peace let him do so he doesn’t owe anyone anything aside from himself and his loved ones

ye did channel orange /blonde 3 times over in like same time span with his first 6 drops

and toured each time

and challenged every establishment he was in

love frank but his music and persona v much aligns with the times. his goat status was prematurely given due to how accessible and inoffensive he is

Stop comparing Frank to Prince lol

we got peak frank. accept it and enjoy it for what it was fr

Tbh while those are all great songs, Frank doesnt have a Grown Woman or TBH

music isn’t sports man lol

i think ye is the culprit of all of this in the way i explained in my other post about frank. ye doesn't actually make the music credited under his name anymore and hasn't for a long time, and that arguably started with college dropout (Jesus walks being entirely written by rhymefest, etc). ye really started this idea of someone who is a "musical director" or "tastemaker" of their own album a la Travis Scott, who tells the producers to "make it dark and s***" and gets some bars from Cyhi to pass off as his own

my favorite ye song was literally entirely written by Jeff Bhasker. can i even call it my favorite ye song anymore, or a song by Jeff Bhasker, Warryn Campbell, Mark Williams, Raul Cubina and Ye performing/contributing likely very little? i think in general we need to bring back caring about artistic integrity and not just f***ing brand and product. late capitalism a doozy.

denying the competition in music is naive. usually the hungrier the artist the better the output

Youre completely right
Ye is also the first rapper ( i think) who was considered a genius no matter the output, like there always has to be some deep meaning behind the s*** he does. Now that i think about it, that might be the biggest part of his legacy & influence