This is fax. Really gotta specialize at the end of the day

Splice probably has like less than 4M users per month

There’s at least 100M producers or close to it

Facts the days of being able to be a great diy artist and finding a way to get your demo to a label exec are done. The only people getting that path are nepo babies. And you aren’t a nepo baby the only people getting recognition are the ones that are young and good at social media. Social media. Not specifically good at music.

The music making culture itself has become too cliquey and it’s just about who you know with some clout that can get you in the room. Anyone doing their own thing that isn’t into the high school environment they set is automatically an outsider and an outcast behind the scenes. It’s crazy.

I’m saying splice loops as a catch all for this whole style of producing that’s essentially putting legos together

Yeah they were finessing back then lol shoutout the producer thread on KG KTT a lot of drum packs were shared in that community. Plenty of em had the same sounds tho

I think the tutorials are still a great entry point as long as you veer off from then. But the fact that the tutorials are being showed to millions on YouTube does make people learn to produce in the same way which doesn't help with uniqueness.

i really feel like everything is so min max’d and commoditized that everything feels kinda soulless not that there’s no good music because there’s a ton but everyone’s using the same drum sounds and VSTs, everyone’s doing the same lazy sampling, everyone’s using boring ass loops. there’s been formulaic type s*** forever but now it almost feels like production has become like these type neighborhoods

Tyler talked about this in an interview and it’s so true, a lot of musicians (dangelo comes to mind) really learned the foundations from just learning to play their favorite songs. That’s why I always tell people to only get technical advice from all these YouTubers, as soon as you’re going to busyworksbeats to learn sample chopping and chord progressions it’s time to hang it up

Same bro it’s nuts that a lot of times the most talented person in the room doesn’t give a f*** about playing the social media clout game and usually ends up being the ones that get a later start at an older age.

Music isn’t about the merit anymore it’s about how many people are aware of me. Who cares what they’re aware about me for. I just care that I have attention and I call myself an artist so that’s what I am. Look how many views my reels have. 🤦🏽‍♂️

this is just blatantly ahistorical

the internet decentralized music creation and consumption, naturally that’s going to dilute things like super producers or even superstars to an extent

tutorials are good to learn skills ane how certain tools work but you gotta experiment and work with them to find the sound that you hear in your head

Facts kanye said he learned to produce by trying to recreate the beats on his favorite albums.

And then when No.id taught him sampling, he mostly just send ye on missions by showing what to do first, giving him a sample and have him come back. So he was able to pick up on his own style

yep that’s why i avoided those sorts of vids like the plague ‘cause there’s no way you’re gonna develop your own voice musically if you’re just watching how to emulate and copy a pre-existing sound the whole time

only hit YouTube for learning the DAW and other technical s***, rest was crate digging my ass off + trial and error

exactly

im trying to think who are the best post covid producers. maybe im biased because of where i live but i can’t think of anyone new outside of mcvertt and cash cobain

And I’m saying those producers are just a section of a very much larger plethora of producers who still exist today and haven’t stopped existing because a new way of producing presented itself into popularity and will eventually fade away or the producers themselves will be forced to expand or the simplistic tool will begin to incorporate unbelievable loops

making beats has became something more akin to an alienating job at a assembly line rather than a real exercise of creativity and ingenuity

Sad in the shower rn I needed to hear this

In the dark with the phone flashlight on vibes

Took longer for me to learn engineering than anything else ngl

Niggas aint ever getting 100k a beat again if you can buy them for $20. You can’t “shut up old head” to basic math

Are you okay? Go ahead and replay and scream that s***

I can imagine lmao. S*** looks mad complex

If your beat is good enough then you will make good money off it.

How much do you think Drake/Kendrick/Travis paid to his producers??? .

Decent money but someone like T Minus woulda got 100k a beat or close to it if his 2010’s run happened a decade prior lol

Part of that because of CDs tho. Someone who it really hurt is someone like Pierre who came up with an original hit making sound but it was easily replicable so his value got cut. Same thing happened to lets say F1lthy or the yeat producers before you could really individually identify them. Not even about old head vs young head just oversaturation and lack of originality being accepted