let's all meet halfway and say bullet wounds kill people

but killing people wack.

Bro if it wasn't guns we'd be murdering 1000's of people any way.

S*** in a alternate universe we would create a disease transferable by rat.

And put that rat in a country

To stop war

that auction s*** is a myth

if you are operating as an or for your FFL at an auction or gun show, you have to do the necessary background check

however you cant stop two civilians from transacting legally with firearms. unless there is reason to believe that one of the parties should not bear arms. so essentially the gun shows are just places to meet and find ppl. craigs list works just as fine

not sure if it was this gunshow loop hole u were hintin at but its complete BS

Has to be done. Really doesn't but it kinda has to be done.

nah I feel that lmfao.

There are a lot of states that do not require a background check for private gun sales and do not require permits.

Therefore you can walk in with an ID (pretty much just to prove you’re old enough) and walk out with a gun.

It’s way too easy

EDIT: just peeped your edit, didn’t mean specifically from the auction. My bad I wasn’t specific. But there are a multitude of states where you can meet someone and buy guns with no issues

Some people will bring up that other stuff kill people but those things don't do it as effectively and sometimes even require skill or intelligence which rules out a lot of gun owners.

Others will bring up the need to defend yourself against your government if need be but the thing is that every time the need was there, gun owners were the first ones to bend backwards and accent that illegitimate government.

Lastly you got idiots who claim people kill people. Go try to kill a motherfucker with your hands. It's not as easy at all, takes time, could fail and just knock em out, people could intervene way before you're done, etc.

If nobody had guns you wouldn't even need em to protect yourself against the government since they wouldn't have any gun either. A gunless world would definitely be better.

Guns are for people compensating for something else or too stupid and immature to understand how serious it is. You've got gun owners leaving their guns at their kids' reach

To add to what he said, there is a time limit for the feds to complete the background check and because of the enormous backlog they very often don't have the time. That's how you get people with firearms even though they would've failed their background check.

Last point is an inaccurate generalization imo

There are plenty of responsible, smart gun owners that store and use their guns safely and never have issues

But of course there are idiots

I know but I'm saying that it's been proven that you can't trust the average man with something this serious.

Like just compare the risks. If even just 1 gun owner out of 100 is too immature and stupid to own a gun and it ends with an accident, it's a much higher rate than nobody owning guns. In countries without guns, knife wounds are more common but the thing is that it's first, harder to kill someone with a knife and 2nd, easier to recover from a knife wound.

I just don't think it's worth it nor do I see them as essential at all

Can't wait for the broke NRA to waste some more money it doesn't have on those frivolous lawsuits they started in lockdown states

I agree with you

However we’re way past that point

Yes, no guns is ideal, but there’s already 1 billion+ guns in USA, that’s not realistic in the slightest

Yeah for sure. I'm all in support of stricter gun control laws though.

Like how are unstable people able to procure themselves some firearms so easily is just crazy to me

And I don't give a f*** if it takes months to complete a background check, there shouldn't be a time limit. That s*** is way too serious for a best by date, this s*** ain't food. Why do they need a gun so quickly? Nobody should be in a hurry like that unless of the very rare occasion where they've been seriously threatened.

States where it’s not necessary to perform a background check when selling a gun as a private gun owner (aka not a licensed dealer):

Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
Florida (although individual counties can make it so you need one, but it’s not statewide)
Georgia
Idaho
Indiana
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Maine
Michigan (background check needed for handguns, but not for rifles or shotguns)
Minnesota (no background check needed for non-assault-style rifles or shotguns)
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska (background check needed for handguns, but not for rifles or shotguns)
New Hampshire
North Carolina (background check needed for handguns, but not for rifles or shotguns)
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
Pennsylvania (background check needed for handguns, but not for “regular sized” rifles or shotguns)
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Virginia
West Virginia
Wisconsin
Wyoming

So in 33 states, someone can walk up with an ID and buy a gun from a private seller. For the rest of the states, it’s a short drive (other than Hawaii).

If you don’t see a problem with that, you’re letting your bias blind you.

Nah but butter knives in the uk can apparently lmao

It is but a person with a gun can easily kill more people than a person without one.

That's what pro gun people dont understand.

Another huge argument pro gun people, including myself years ago, had was guns were needed to protect ourselves under Martial Law scenarios, but Rona has proven the powers that be don't even need to use violent force to lock us in our homes and enact Martial Law if desired.

"Others will bring up the need to defend yourself against your government if need be but the thing is that every time the need was there, gun owners were the first ones to bend backwards and accent that illegitimate government."

Now this is just a dumb-as-bricks argument. The ending of chattel slavery was fought by black and white abolitionists against the state with guns. The entire civil rights movement only started being taken seriously when groups like the Black Panters and the Black Liberation Army started storming government buildings armed with guns. Hell, the entire reason why states like California suppress gun rights is because both Democrats and Republicans wanted to criminalize minorities ability to respond to and defend against the government's own violence.

I can at least respect the idealist that thinks no one, not even the government, should have guns. The reality though is that genie has been out of the bottle for nearly 300 years, and there's not a chance in hell that you're going to get any government to stuff it back in and disarm themselves.

I can't respect though, any government that advocates for the unilateral disarmament of the populace, while they keep all their guns... History has proven more than enough times why no government can be trusted with the monopoly of force, ESPECIALLY the American government. Any Democrat or Republican that wants to pass gun laws that they themselves don't have to follow can suck my pingón

Tldr

U dum

Dont think you can enter a building with a car and not be spotted

People are against the establishment because they don’t use the government to help the people. yes the government needs to do more stuff like police fire department schools and hospitals. The establishment is not doing that right now they are enriching themselves.

What is so hard for you to understand?

Go enter a mall with your car and kill 20 people god you people have really bought into propaganda

Protection

No one should have guns, not even police.

they shouldnt be available to everyone tho

cause who knows what'll happen when a person with 10 handguns and 2 rifles flips out

my nigga I'd find a way to kill you with a lego piece.

we do have to do a better job. . . but don't ever for one second think you can stop a human who's determined.

only nature coincidence fate and spirits / gods can do that