Puffy

3y

Can I PAWG in peace?

WhiteSugeKnight

3y

There is a 'conspiracy', but it doesn't have much to do with race. Western whites are not reproducing enough to sustain the infinite growth that capitalism requires, so the plutocrats push to import the country with new blood to stall a shrinking market.

On one hand, I understand the dissonance that white people feel: leagues of out-group demographics that don't respect them are coming in, voting for their own interests, and changing the culture of the country.

On the other hand, that's the inevitable consequence of liberal capitalism. Your people, your culture, your religion, your lifestyle -- it's all only as important as its potential for profit. America was built off of exploitation and selling out to make a dollar: the diminishing white demographic is just the chickens coming home to roost.

Puffy

3y

Can I PAWG in peace?

JaeRell

3y

Then why don't white people just become communist?

JaeRell

3y

Then why don't white people just become communist?

WhiteSugeKnight

3y

Because communism is cultural Marxism, or something like that.

I don't know that communism is the solution, but it's definitely not shooting at random people just like shooting at random white Afrikaners doesn't actually help black South Africans.

IMO, power needs to be divided up to a far greater extent so that fewer people feel disenfranchised. Let communities of white people, black people, native people, etc. govern themselves autonomously. There's zero reason why the black community should have to exist under the thumb of a white authority, or vice versa. I'm not suggesting segregation, either -- I'm suggesting voluntarism, where people can freely create and disband communities of governance. So if people want mixed and diverse communities, they can have them. If blacks, whites, or whoever, want to cluster with people that are like them, then they can.

WhiteSugeKnight

3y

There is a 'conspiracy', but it doesn't have much to do with race. Western whites are not reproducing enough to sustain the infinite growth that capitalism requires, so the plutocrats push to import the country with new blood to stall a shrinking market.

On one hand, I understand the dissonance that white people feel: leagues of out-group demographics that don't respect them are coming in, voting for their own interests, and changing the culture of the country.

On the other hand, that's the inevitable consequence of liberal capitalism. Your people, your culture, your religion, your lifestyle -- it's all only as important as its potential for profit. America was built off of exploitation and selling out to make a dollar: the diminishing white demographic is just the chickens coming home to roost.

Delete this now

3y

I really like this take though, quite possibly a method to break through the cognitive dissonance to conspiracy theorists. It isn’t attacking them, just explaining what the f*** is happening and what they should actually be mad at.

paradise valley

3y

but if youre not a psycho you can see that it's just just the reality of white not even being a very real thing, and that once "white" blood is mixed with another race that bloodline will never really be "white" again. someone smarter than me can explain how that stems from american racism

"race purity" and things like one drop rule makes no sense to me. if you are white, you are white.

Scratchin Mamba

3y

There is absolutely nothing real (ie genetic) about race

If you are gonna classify human populations by genetic similarities, which is dumb anyway, you would have more "races" among people from sub-Saharan Africa than the rest of the world combined, yet we're all just labeled "black"

Race is not real

staticshockk

3y

Agreed, but

which is dumb anyway

why?

Scratchin Mamba

3y

Because the differences between these populations are miniscule compared to the differences between individuals except for some medical conditions like sickle cell or whatever

staticshockk

3y

oh, that was my reasoning for why it would be wise, because medical conditions such as diseases; things like diet, lifestyle etc.

Scratchin Mamba

3y

For most things it's still very inconsequential

In medicine it might sometimes be useful tho for sure

But there's really no reason for it besides that

staticshockk

3y

What about history such as identifying the identity of ancient cultures?

Scratchin Mamba

3y

You rly have no clue what you're talking about lmao

Scratchin Mamba

3y

Well then you identify those cultures, not the genetic similarities

It can be done for some academic purposes in anthropology or whatever

Im not saying it should never be done or anything lol, it's just not nearly as useful or meaningful as people think, and the way race is understood was only conceived of for the purpose of dehumanizing certain "races" to exploit them more than the "white race"

staticshockk

3y

the way race is understood was only conceived of for the purpose of dehumanizing certain "races" to exploit them more than the "white race"

I agree 100%

Well then you identify those cultures, not the genetic similarities

Isn't genealogy apart of identifying cultures? And don't you think it's important to know where said culture evolved into and where it currently remains?

It can be done for some academic purposes in anthropology or whatever

How about for people's personal/individual curiosity and/or people who feel that it is needed to sustain said culture/s?

Scratchin Mamba

3y

I think you're misunderstanding what i'm saying, if you agree w that first statement we're pretty much on the same page

I'm just saying there's no reason to identify people on genetic similarities besides academic and medical reasons

Genealogy is an individual/familial thing, not population wide, and cultural similarities are seperate from genetic similarities. It's not like chinese people are culturally more similar to english people just because they have more in common genetically

Scratchin Mamba

3y

Turkish people are often seen as white in the US

Not at all in europe

Who was deemed to be "white" changed over time

Even now people still disagree

Try to define what the white race is, there is no qualification based on anything real