May 18, 2022
Oxnardit's just just the reality of white not even being a very real thing
What’s this mean?
whiteness has never been and never will be real, same as blackness
they are concepts meant to divide people
proof is in history. 100 years ago, italians and irish aren't considered white. cultural assimilation, and fear of losing majority rule, changes this.
why do you think ADOS and Africans who move to america have tensions/arguments over blackness.
this is the most simplest way to put it ofc its much more nuanced then that
- May 18, 2022
PuffyCan I PAWG in peace?
- May 18, 2022
JaeRellThen why don't white people just become communist?
because they seek to lose their privilege, that's why most white communists are either communist in name alone, or have a lower position in the socio-political hierarchy (gender being the biggest one, but there's many ways in which a white person can "lose" their whiteness in the states)
May 19, 2022·2 replies
Scratchin MambaThere is absolutely nothing real (ie genetic) about race
If you are gonna classify human populations by genetic similarities, which is dumb anyway, you would have more "races" among people from sub-Saharan Africa than the rest of the world combined, yet we're all just labeled "black"
Race is not real
!https://youtu.be/q7sxTnWeQ8sNah race/ethnicity is definitely real, genetically speaking. AFAIK what you're talking about comes from a study where they looked at some single alleles in individuals from different races and found that whether or not you share that allele with someone else does not depend on whether that other person is of the same race as you. Based on this some people claimed that there is no genetic correlations within populations, i.e. race is not real.
But then if you look instead at a larger section of the genome you can clearly see the correlations within a (racial/ethnic) population. Also as you look at subset of that population by making your geographic selection area increasingly small, the positive correlation gets stronger.
Sorry I'm a bit hazy on the details it's been a while since I read this. I'll try to update with the source if I find it.
- May 19, 2022·1 replyLondon
Nah race/ethnicity is definitely real, genetically speaking. AFAIK what you're talking about comes from a study where they looked at some single alleles in individuals from different races and found that whether or not you share that allele with someone else does not depend on whether that other person is of the same race as you. Based on this some people claimed that there is no genetic correlations within populations, i.e. race is not real.
But then if you look instead at a larger section of the genome you can clearly see the correlations within a (racial/ethnic) population. Also as you look at subset of that population by making your geographic selection area increasingly small, the positive correlation gets stronger.
Sorry I'm a bit hazy on the details it's been a while since I read this. I'll try to update with the source if I find it.
It wasn't just one study, it's been replicated many times
May 19, 2022
HURRY UP K DOGFox News is a hell of a d***
I was told by in laws that cops are not even trying to arrest black people anymore because they are afraid of the public outrage if they happen to kill them
Like do you not hear how absolutely moronic that sounds?
CNN will have you OD'd on the side of the road
May 19, 2022
Gulpinit is a conspiracy theory to plenty of people, ie: the elites want to exterminate white people
but if youre not a psycho you can see that it's just just the reality of white not even being a very real thing, and that once "white" blood is mixed with another race that bloodline will never really be "white" again. someone smarter than me can explain how that stems from american racism
at this point anyone getting upset about it is a bonafide racist end of story. people can change of course, but at that moment im not looking at it as anything other than racism
i always go on s***hole websites like kiwifarms/8chan in the wake of terrible s*** like the buffalo shooting to see what they're saying...and i gotta say this one has a lot more people than ive ever seen before wholeheartedly agreeing with the murderer's manifesto. even on twitter i see ppl replying to tweets about it asking "Please, answer his questions. Tell me why diversity is good, I'll be waiting." as if there's no answer possible to it.
Sorry for the jumbled rant but it really is making me much sadder about our future than ever before. I grew up with so many friends who are first gen children of immigrants. Majority india, a few from other parts of asia. Their parents all have thick accents but are fully "americanized." they eat the food of their culture and practice the same religion they did before moving to the US and thats really it. Their kids carry on some traditions but have fully american accents and contribute more to society than me at least.
im just out of any sort of patience for people that can't accept that america isnt a "white" country and it truly means nothing if 100 years from now whites are a minority. who the f*** cares.
i hope this made any sort of sense. sorry for the unhinged rant but i gotta get it off my chest in some dumb way
on a long enough timeline no race will be "pure" so white replacement theory is goofy as s***
the problematic thing about it is that racist niggas that swear they not racist or on a neo nazi tip say s*** like white people are being genocided and point to interracial relationship structures and media entertainment "pushing" interraciality as the status quo as genocide and it's honestly goofy as s*** lmao
- May 19, 2022
WhiteSugeKnightBecause communism is cultural Marxism, or something like that.
I don't know that communism is the solution, but it's definitely not shooting at random people
just like shooting at random white Afrikaners doesn't actually help black South Africans.IMO, power needs to be divided up to a far greater extent so that fewer people feel disenfranchised. Let communities of white people, black people, native people, etc. govern themselves autonomously. There's zero reason why the black community should have to exist under the thumb of a white authority, or vice versa. I'm not suggesting segregation, either -- I'm suggesting voluntarism, where people can freely create and disband communities of governance. So if people want mixed and diverse communities, they can have them. If blacks, whites, or whoever, want to cluster with people that are like them, then they can.
This already kind of happens though.. just look at how gangs operate in LA.
I understand what you mean though.
- May 19, 2022·edited·1 replyLondon
Nah race/ethnicity is definitely real, genetically speaking. AFAIK what you're talking about comes from a study where they looked at some single alleles in individuals from different races and found that whether or not you share that allele with someone else does not depend on whether that other person is of the same race as you. Based on this some people claimed that there is no genetic correlations within populations, i.e. race is not real.
But then if you look instead at a larger section of the genome you can clearly see the correlations within a (racial/ethnic) population. Also as you look at subset of that population by making your geographic selection area increasingly small, the positive correlation gets stronger.
Sorry I'm a bit hazy on the details it's been a while since I read this. I'll try to update with the source if I find it.
So what? It is obvious that certain genetics are similar in an area. But the problem is that there is no hard boundary. There isn't a line in the world where after it all people are suddenly black, before the line all people are suddenly white, it is always gradual. For there to exist different races, there would have to be a certain number of groups that can be solidly defined with no edge cases. Different races of pigeons don't have "edge cases", they either are Type A or Type B. This doesn't apply to humans, any attempt at classifying different biological races has always failed.
Is a Turk white or brown? Is a Berber brown or black? An East African has different color than a West African. It becomes really damn silly because the boundaries are arbitrary. We can call a Swede white and a Congolese black, but what about the edge cases, let alone mixed cases? The idea of biological race makes no sense for humans. It is a societal construct. Is there a yellow race? Are Central Asians yellow or white? What are Pacific natives, are they yellow or black or brown? Is a super dark Thai still called yellow? Are Australian aboriginals black? What are Native Americans? Are they red? What color words do we even use? How do you deal with very mixed populations like in Latin America? Do you do a brown paper bag test or an one drop rule? It gets completely arbitrary, something animal races aren't.
Furthermore, Africa has a higher genetic diversity than any other place in the world.
- May 19, 2022·1 replyWhiteSugeKnight
Because communism is cultural Marxism, or something like that.
I don't know that communism is the solution, but it's definitely not shooting at random people
just like shooting at random white Afrikaners doesn't actually help black South Africans.IMO, power needs to be divided up to a far greater extent so that fewer people feel disenfranchised. Let communities of white people, black people, native people, etc. govern themselves autonomously. There's zero reason why the black community should have to exist under the thumb of a white authority, or vice versa. I'm not suggesting segregation, either -- I'm suggesting voluntarism, where people can freely create and disband communities of governance. So if people want mixed and diverse communities, they can have them. If blacks, whites, or whoever, want to cluster with people that are like them, then they can.
wait so you want...voluntary ethostates..?
do you know how hard this would de-integrate western society? lol
do you realize how fortunate it is that the united states is one of the few countries that doesnt have to worry about s*** like tariffs between other states or what would be "country" borders? And how if you make communities in every city of every states choose how they want to segregate themselves, you're essentially creating a major rift in american society when the entire point is that it's supposed to be an ethnic gumbo?
that would be so problematic for any local society just to get "black people from under the thumb of white authority", especially in a country already strained from racial turmoil, undercutting whatever national unity that's been wasted since after 911
May 19, 2022·1 replyallmygirlsdoyoga
Is this Gulpin
- May 19, 2022WhiteSugeKnight
There is a 'conspiracy', but it doesn't have much to do with race. Western whites are not reproducing enough to sustain the infinite growth that capitalism requires, so the plutocrats push to import the country with new blood to stall a shrinking market.
On one hand, I understand the dissonance that white people feel: leagues of out-group demographics that don't respect them are coming in, voting for their own interests, and changing the culture of the country.
On the other hand, that's the inevitable consequence of liberal capitalism. Your people, your culture, your religion, your lifestyle -- it's all only as important as its potential for profit. America was built off of exploitation and selling out to make a dollar: the diminishing white demographic is just the chickens coming home to roost.
This. They will never actually look into the real causes of immigration or the declining populations because it will blow their whole conspiracy theory out of the water.
It’s all systemic. Even the reason why people aren’t having kids is because they can’t afford to have kids because the cost of living is so high.
This late stage capitalism we are experiencing is pure and utter cancer. Things will continue to get worse before they get better unfortunately.
- May 19, 2022Takotchi
wait so you want...voluntary ethostates..?
do you know how hard this would de-integrate western society? lol
do you realize how fortunate it is that the united states is one of the few countries that doesnt have to worry about s*** like tariffs between other states or what would be "country" borders? And how if you make communities in every city of every states choose how they want to segregate themselves, you're essentially creating a major rift in american society when the entire point is that it's supposed to be an ethnic gumbo?
that would be so problematic for any local society just to get "black people from under the thumb of white authority", especially in a country already strained from racial turmoil, undercutting whatever national unity that's been wasted since after 911
Not at all. I'm saying that people have a natural tendency to cluster with people that are similar to them -- that's okay. If that's not the case in some places, that's okay too. In any event, those communities should be able to voluntarily associate and police and administrate themselves.
Right now, you have a massive dissonance in many communities, especially majority black ones, where they are being administrated and policed by unelected white authorities without their consent and they don't feel like they're being treated fairly. Now, you have majority white communities beginning to feel the same dissonance as America becomes less racially and culturally white. I don't feel like this political arm-wrestling match needs to exist -- just communities govern themselves and defederalize the process.
May 19, 2022·2 repliesAren’t most elites are white though? So why would they want to exterminate their own?
I’m confused
May 19, 2022·1 replyIt's not even a theory:
The question is whether this demographic change is coordinated — i.e., a conspiracy. Doubt it.
May 19, 2022GhostDeini718Aren’t most elites are white though? So why would they want to exterminate their own?
I’m confused
They dont. It has more to do with whites not reproducing enough and thinking they are too good for certain minimum wage and "low skill" jobs. Why raise the wage or worry about staffing those jobs when you can import millions of illegals each year that are more than willing to take those jobs to escape their own hardships.
May 19, 2022stop trying to get justifications from literal racists
off with their heads
May 19, 2022I don’t see that problem with a diverse, yet Americanized country.
May 19, 2022Tf
May 19, 2022White man mad i got pawg privledge
- May 19, 2022BRAVE
Is this Gulpin
Yes
- May 19, 2022
white people are not going away
why are people pushing this narrative that the white race is dying
man stfu. I never understood this race x abortion topic its just tin-foil theories to me.
- May 19, 2022·2 repliesSEGA GOON
So what? It is obvious that certain genetics are similar in an area. But the problem is that there is no hard boundary. There isn't a line in the world where after it all people are suddenly black, before the line all people are suddenly white, it is always gradual. For there to exist different races, there would have to be a certain number of groups that can be solidly defined with no edge cases. Different races of pigeons don't have "edge cases", they either are Type A or Type B. This doesn't apply to humans, any attempt at classifying different biological races has always failed.
Is a Turk white or brown? Is a Berber brown or black? An East African has different color than a West African. It becomes really damn silly because the boundaries are arbitrary. We can call a Swede white and a Congolese black, but what about the edge cases, let alone mixed cases? The idea of biological race makes no sense for humans. It is a societal construct. Is there a yellow race? Are Central Asians yellow or white? What are Pacific natives, are they yellow or black or brown? Is a super dark Thai still called yellow? Are Australian aboriginals black? What are Native Americans? Are they red? What color words do we even use? How do you deal with very mixed populations like in Latin America? Do you do a brown paper bag test or an one drop rule? It gets completely arbitrary, something animal races aren't.
Furthermore, Africa has a higher genetic diversity than any other place in the world.
tbh saying that categories don't make sense or aren't useful because there are no hard boundaries is a really childish way of looking at the problem of classification. There are many examples of very useful classification systems which require nuanced treatment of edge cases.
Also, I have not ever heard of a "yellow" race. Nobody is saying that human races correspond to the color spectrum, so you can stop throwing a tantrum. It is absolutely possible to determine if someone is of African/European/Asian/Middle Eastern/Aboriginal Australian decent or even a mix of these etc. by studying their genome. On archeological sites they can even fairly accurately estimate the ethnic origins of remains based on bone measurements. This is what I mean when I say that biological race is 'real'. I'm not trying to assign colors to people.
If you don't like the white/black labels that's understandable. But it absolutely does not mean that race is a "social construct."
- May 19, 2022Scratchin Mamba
It wasn't just one study, it's been replicated many times
Fair enough. I'm not saying that study was wrong. But their findings don't actually mean anything like 'race isn't real'.
- May 19, 2022WhiteSugeKnight
Because communism is cultural Marxism, or something like that.
I don't know that communism is the solution, but it's definitely not shooting at random people
just like shooting at random white Afrikaners doesn't actually help black South Africans.IMO, power needs to be divided up to a far greater extent so that fewer people feel disenfranchised. Let communities of white people, black people, native people, etc. govern themselves autonomously. There's zero reason why the black community should have to exist under the thumb of a white authority, or vice versa. I'm not suggesting segregation, either -- I'm suggesting voluntarism, where people can freely create and disband communities of governance. So if people want mixed and diverse communities, they can have them. If blacks, whites, or whoever, want to cluster with people that are like them, then they can.
Fully agree with last paragraph