Religious Converts with minimal ties to Ethnic Israel.

This

And regardless, Whoopi is a f***in idiot for saying that s***

I don't think Whoopi should have been suspended or think it's particularly important to not offend any group's delicate ethnonarcissistic sensibilities, but that logic doesn't track

just because Nazi racial ideology was incorrect doesn't mean that they were not motivated by race, making it a "race issue"

it would be like saying "Mr. Jones down the street hit his wife because she burned dinner; he says it's allowed because they're married. but we agree that it's wrong to hit your wife just because she burned dinner, so how can this be a marriage issue?"

And honestly in 2022 I can’t tell you if race or ethnicity or religion is the right word to describe it. A lot has happened since the holocaust. Most 21st century Jews have European heritage which I guess makes them white depending on how you wanna define race.

"You are not Indian if you don't follow Hinduism"

Judaism is just the religion. You can be ethnically Jewish and not believe/practice Judaism.

So it sounds like you're saying that being Jewish isn't exclusive to a single race or ethnicity, so wouldn't that further reinforce the claim the the holocaust wasn't a "race" issue?

I gotta do a group project right now but I’ll explain more in depth once I’m done

It's really dependent on whether you mean white as in phenotypically European, or white as in part of a cultural majority,

Interesting thread, I was thinking about asking this too but I did not expect so many different answers.

Now I'm even more confused.

Well the Nazis saw it as a race issue so I think it’s fair to say it was a race issue

He’s probably something like 25% middle eastern, 35% European, the remainder west African

That’s if u want to break down his mother’s ashknazi jewish ancestry plus the european ancestry (and possible Native American) his african American dad would have

Like +90% of them live in Israel

But the Nazis were incorrect.

I mean by this logic isn’t all racism not a race issue because racism is built on false premises, namely the very idea of “race”? What matters is what people believe and think, even if it’s not true

Jews are a race
They split into Sephardic(arabs who have identified themselves as Jews) and Ashkenazi(always have been Jewish)
Hundreds and thousands of years ago you could say they were closely related with people of Arab descent(considering they lived in the Middle East)but in recent history they have been scattered all around the globe and only married their kind so as a race they have probably distanced themselves from others more(genetically speaking)
Also because Jewish people are more related to Arabs and have not really europeanized themselves so to say, they are not white
I think

But honestly the nazis weren’t even consistent with their hatred

Like yea european jews have partial west asian descent but so do greeks, southern italians, Spanish, portueguese etc

Ever seen a sicilian

They stopped blocking them as much in 2020. It was a decades long process. Hard to segregate two times over I guess lol

Don't think she should've been suspended, as I don't think it was anti-Semetic (you'd know that better than me) or trying to offend. But it was very dumb lmao

"The Holocaust wasn't about race, it was about man's inhumanity towards man!" Okay, ,man's inhumanity towards man based on...what Whoopi?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_Israel#Immigration_to_Israel

Yeah, but in this specific instance, the types of Jewish people that were being oppressed and killed included white people.

They didn't kill those white people because they were white, they killed them because they're Jewish, and Jewish people are white.

I feel stupid now.

what about stephen miller, a jewish white supremacist?

a 100% don’t let em tell u otherwise 😂

I’d like to know the answer to this as well I never understood how it worked