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    Risky

    there's a reason there hasn't been a movie in theaters in 4 years and there isn't even one on the horizon. they cant get a movie off the ground.

    The movie end was always going to be in a weird place after the sequel trilogy ended. Their one true box office flop, Solo, made them rethink their anthology film strategy, and many of the ones they had lined up turned into shows instead, or were scrapped. They figured a different direction would be better, but we're five years in and they still don't really know what that direction should be.

    Prior to the Filoni, Mangold, and Rey films, the only one that was officially greenlit, at least in public, was Rogue Squadron directed by Patty Jenkins and I'm almost certain we would've gotten that if her reputation didn't tank after WW1984. Like Josh Trank and Colin Trevorrow before her, Lucasfilm has been very unlucky when it comes to hiring directors right before they drop generational stinkers.

    Who knows what happened with the D&D films, if the Rian Johnson trilogy is ever going to happen, or what the deal really was with the Kevin Feige and Taika Waititi movies... but Lucasfilm's biggest problem regarding them at the moment seems to be a creative one, more so than a worry over the potential financial health of the movies themselves. Online discourse doesn't represent real life. Without the Skywalker Saga to lean on anymore, it's likely they don't have a billion dollar film in them, but I'm quite confident a Star Wars movie would fare better than any offering from the MCU/DC over the past few years, barring NWH and potentially GOTG3 (of course, that isn't a high bar to pass)

  • Dec 30, 2023
    Red Bandaną

    Spider-Verse
    The Boys

    Everything else can get cancelled tbh

    Invincible >

  • Kengi 💭
    Dec 30, 2023
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    Need more queer movies in cinema next

  • Dec 30, 2023
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    🤖

    !dream Mickey Mouse crying while counting money.

  • Dec 30, 2023
    Ryuka

    batman 2 out soon

    keep that mid

  • Dec 30, 2023
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    Saturday

    !dream Mickey Mouse crying while counting money.

    wheres the crying he just happy ai trash

  • Dec 30, 2023
    Kengi

    Need more queer movies in cinema next

    Queer classics go straight from the festival to MUBI

  • Dec 30, 2023

    They probably just lower the budgets of the movies so that they’ll actually be profitable

  • RASIE 🦦
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    I just want superheroes to not be the dominant culture in media. We get the best stuff when superheroes are niche

    It's not dominant simply because it's superheroes — that may have been the case a couple decades ago — in recent years, it's moreso just a combination of the insidious "cinematic universe" media model and dry milked nostalgia/forever-children patronage that dominate the film market. Comic book media and Star Wars serve identical functions in the marketplace. If it wasn't superheroes, it would easily be something else being given a 20-year long continuity treatment that would be just as successful as 21st century Marvel/Star Wars.

    Which is only possible with the dozens of millions in marketing that prop these productions up — as well as the evil incarnate creatures at these studios that buy distribution rights to domestic and international films with no plans of ever releasing them to control consumer choice and maintain their governance of theater chains. That also includes the abhorrent tactic of threatening theaters with limiting the screening calendar of the newest fast food franchise release, which would make the theater the most money, if they choose to screen other releases not owned by the same studio.

    Even movies that are tangential property of the same studio aren't safe. Like when Disney told theaters that if they wanted to screen Malick's A Hidden Life — the kind of movie that theaters would typically give a couple showings per day on a screen that shares a schedule with other films — they could not show it on a shared schedule, it must have its own dedicated screen with round-the-clock showtimes. And to top it off, Disney was demanding that theaters pay them similar rates to a Marvel/Star Wars blockbuster to show Malick's new film.

    Of course, most theaters refused this absurd, dystopian deal because it would lose them a s*** ton of money. Disney was setting it up to fail in the most diabolical, literal fashion because Rise of Skywalker was set to release the following week. So they quite bluntly forced theaters to choose between paying for Malick's film or the new Star Wars during the holiday season, and for theaters the choice was simple.

    Saying "i wish superheroes didn't dominate the cinemas" doesn't really address what's going on. If the MCU stopped existing after Iron Man, you better believe there would still be 20 years dominated by the Archie cinematic universe or 25 Kingdom Hearts movies or some other "i know this thing!" product.

  • Dec 30, 2023

    Star Wars was essential in building this

  • Dec 30, 2023
    paradise valley

    It’s already dead

  • Dec 30, 2023
    RASIE
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    It's not dominant simply because it's superheroes — that may have been the case a couple decades ago — in recent years, it's moreso just a combination of the insidious "cinematic universe" media model and dry milked nostalgia/forever-children patronage that dominate the film market. Comic book media and Star Wars serve identical functions in the marketplace. If it wasn't superheroes, it would easily be something else being given a 20-year long continuity treatment that would be just as successful as 21st century Marvel/Star Wars.

    Which is only possible with the dozens of millions in marketing that prop these productions up — as well as the evil incarnate creatures at these studios that buy distribution rights to domestic and international films with no plans of ever releasing them to control consumer choice and maintain their governance of theater chains. That also includes the abhorrent tactic of threatening theaters with limiting the screening calendar of the newest fast food franchise release, which would make the theater the most money, if they choose to screen other releases not owned by the same studio.

    Even movies that are tangential property of the same studio aren't safe. Like when Disney told theaters that if they wanted to screen Malick's A Hidden Life — the kind of movie that theaters would typically give a couple showings per day on a screen that shares a schedule with other films — they could not show it on a shared schedule, it must have its own dedicated screen with round-the-clock showtimes. And to top it off, Disney was demanding that theaters pay them similar rates to a Marvel/Star Wars blockbuster to show Malick's new film.

    Of course, most theaters refused this absurd, dystopian deal because it would lose them a s*** ton of money. Disney was setting it up to fail in the most diabolical, literal fashion because Rise of Skywalker was set to release the following week. So they quite bluntly forced theaters to choose between paying for Malick's film or the new Star Wars during the holiday season, and for theaters the choice was simple.

    Saying "i wish superheroes didn't dominate the cinemas" doesn't really address what's going on. If the MCU stopped existing after Iron Man, you better believe there would still be 20 years dominated by the Archie cinematic universe or 25 Kingdom Hearts movies or some other "i know this thing!" product.

    Oof

  • Dec 30, 2023
    Risky

    6/8 superhero movies completely bombed this yr

    because most of them weren’t good movies lol that’s how it’s always been

    go figure all the great ones still pull in lots of money

    qualities just slipped lately

  • Dec 30, 2023

    So are we all gonna cop Sundance digital passes or?

  • Dec 31, 2023
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    Ryuka

    batman 2 out soon

    All honesty, it'll be a surprise if it hits 800m

  • Dec 31, 2023
    Block Muteson

    The hype is dying, but the movies are still accounting for the highest box office draws. 1 out of 5 of the movies that broke $200,000,000 at the box office in 2023 were Marvel or DC. Factor in shows, factor in merch, factor in games, etc.

    Nothing ever ends anymore.

    Boycott

  • Dec 31, 2023

    Don't apologize. Let it fall into obsolescence.

  • GALAXYZ 🐉
    Dec 31, 2023

    Keep Spidey franchise and Batman / Joker

    Rest can kick rocks

  • GALAXYZ 🐉
    Dec 31, 2023

    Invincible and The Boys great too

  • WINTER 🌨️
    Dec 31, 2023

    madame web sydney sweeney comin soon

  • Dec 31, 2023

    Imagine being a comicbook movie hater and not enjoying all genres of movies

  • Dec 31, 2023
    mdmadon

    wheres the crying he just happy ai trash

    Disney is a soulless company now it’s fitting

  • Dec 31, 2023
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    DarkTechno

    All honesty, it'll be a surprise if it hits 800m

    I'll hit a bill cos of joker

  • Dec 31, 2023

    superhero bad i hate marvel >:(

  • Dec 31, 2023

    Less of that shared universe stuff in general