yep, because Muslim = religious extremism

wanting religious beliefs to be respected = religious extremism

that’s why just skimming your religion’s central text and half assing church visits doesn’t count as a “””background””” to me, because niggas like you dump their religion and go full on enlightened atheist

Where did i say that

A lot of muslim parents push their extreme beliefs to their children lmao imagine acting like they dont know what theyre talking about

civil conversation in a thread about a controversial topic…you are BASED 🤝

Not at all. She clearly respected the beliefs of the students

And in this case the students had time to say otherwise but they didnt

Idk what you want to call that but its bs outrage at the very least

it’s literally not, honestly this is mostly the students’ fault + administration if anything, ample warning etc was given

that dude just wanted to slam dunk on religion because that’s the super cool thing to do in today’s society

do u think the teacher showed appropriate respect with the warning in the syllabus and then the day of? or should she have not shown it at all?

you tying exmuslims to religious extremism communicates an underlying bias to see them through that lens my dude

most self respecting theists and/or religious people do not f*** with religious extremism nor nationalism, there was no point in even mentioning it

you attempting to tie niggas wanting their beliefs respected to extremist beliefs is disingenuous as all hell

nah, i think she showed the appropriate respect she literally put up a disclaimer in the syllabus (that they probably didn’t even read, because let’s be real, no one does) and then gave them yet another warning before she actually showed it

she did everything that she could, they’re def in the wrong for firing her as far as im concerned

btw it seems like this professor is falling on the sword for the university and administration.

archive.ph/oEhi7

"Multiple students at the meeting expressed frustration at repeated incidents of intolerance and hate speech in recent years, and asked about new forms of intervention."

@FranquitoReynolds

Nah she did the right thing. She’s an art history teacher ffs. She did her best to warn those that would take offense but it’s not like what she showed was irrelevant to the class

So her whole reason for showing the depictions were what, exactly? The article says she’s trying to show “there is no monothetic Islamic culture” — but that feels… flimsy? Is that correct? I can’t think of a practicing cast or sect of Islam that permits depictions?

I dont respect what the students did

Depictions of the prophet mohammed (pbuh) are frowned upon but not forbidden. The quran never explicitly states it, it is simply assumed disrespectful by hadiths surrounding the quran

The general consensus is to not depict it, but you cannot control the actions of another especially a non believer

When you live in a country such as the US you ascribe by its rules so long as it does not breach sharia law.

Depictions of mohammed, as far as i know, are not under sharia law

word. although reading the article Jayla linked it does seem like students had grievances re: intolerance and hate speech in previous years. hard to say whether its just more of the same or if this teacher really acting poorly like that

Literally none

Depictions of the prophet has always been seen as a big no-no pretty much throughout all muslim societies in history

Ppl like to bring up obscure dissenting cases centuries ago of a painter or two who did it bc they want to act like depicting the prophet is something that’s debated in the muslim community

I don't think she's islamophopic but she shouldn't be suprised by the consequences. Like she knew that you shouldn't show his image, knew it was controversial, so don't be suprised by getting into trouble.

In my house hold we were not allowed to have pictures of anyone laying around. Family photo books were put away, no living creature imagery anywhere

Where a christian household would have a picture of christ and a cross or heart, wed have the shahada, or just Allahs name

Why would you do that s***

No because they could have easily taught that class without it

My friend suggested to me that it would have been better if the instructor indicated to students where they could see these images in their own time and place if they wanted, but to not show it in the classroom. While I don't fault the instructor for not thinking of this accommodation, it seems a somewhat fair 'compromise' so to speak.

I brought up to her how I thought this was comparable to people not wanting Toni Morrison novels taught, especially in high school, because the material conflicted with their moral values. But she thought that novels were different from artwork. Maybe it is. Perhaps it is easier to talk about literature dealing in controversial themes compared to imagery? I'm not sure I agree but it's possible.

Big fact

Good post