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  • Jan 5, 2022

    Who cares

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    americana

    an artist making work with the sake of their fans in mind first isn't an artist anymore. they're a product pusher

    This is why I respect the Weeknd

    He kinda fell into that trap with BBTM and Starboy (which is a great fking album), but he QUICKLY rebounded with MDM and AH.

    He's just a big as Drake and is still able to push boundaries and do what he wants to do without sacrificing the quality of his music

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    DaeHan

    This is why I respect the Weeknd

    He kinda fell into that trap with BBTM and Starboy (which is a great fking album), but he QUICKLY rebounded with MDM and AH.

    He's just a big as Drake and is still able to push boundaries and do what he wants to do without sacrificing the quality of his music

    precisely. i think drake lost a bit of confidence in regards to how dedicated his fanbase was (and we can see just how less cohesive and community-like it is compared to kanye or the weeknd or travis or carti or whatever) and worked to appease them to keep them in and it created QC problems.

    if he did what he wants and let everyone else tag along it'd be far more productive for him

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    DaeHan

    Like, in this era, is he too big to make a concise 12-13 track solid album?

    He spoke about this during the RR interview that he has to cater to so many fans so he can never make that kind of album.

    I think that's a cop out. If Hov can make 4:44, then Drake should be able to make the album that everyone wants

    Or maybe we have to accept that maybe Drake just isn't that type of artist.

    IYRTITL might've been the album that we always wanted.

    Thoughts?

    hov in 2017 wasnt in his peak of popularity, drake still is. i dont expect him to drop something like that for another 5-6 years

  • Jan 5, 2022
    mythstar7

    hov in 2017 wasnt in his peak of popularity, drake still is. i dont expect him to drop something like that for another 5-6 years

    I'm not talking about the subject matter of 4:44, but rather the conceise direction.

  • Jan 5, 2022
    americana

    precisely. i think drake lost a bit of confidence in regards to how dedicated his fanbase was (and we can see just how less cohesive and community-like it is compared to kanye or the weeknd or travis or carti or whatever) and worked to appease them to keep them in and it created QC problems.

    if he did what he wants and let everyone else tag along it'd be far more productive for him

    Good point

  • Jan 5, 2022

    he's just trying to make his numbers before he has to bail out. its cool will probably get that as the comeback album

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    Drake is most likely simply not capable of making a great album

    IYRTITL was great but it wasnt written by him

  • Jan 5, 2022

    Nah nobody is forcing Drake to appeal to all audiences but for some reason he thinks he has to

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    isolate them who cares every great artist has an album that alienates their audience

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    He told us during the Rap Radar interview.

    We'll never get the concise Drake album because he feels obligated to make an album that checks off all the boxes of music that his fans except him to make.

    It's sad that he doesn't make music that he wants to and basically admitted that's the formula he needs his albums to meet because he's a business now. No wonder his last few albums have come out the way they have.

    People call Drake formulaic now and it's hard to disagree even as a fan.

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    Gmbruh

    Drake is most likely simply not capable of making a great album

    IYRTITL was great but it wasnt written by him

    I don't like to buy into the ghostwriting talk, but I was listening to IYRTITL the other day, and it's crazy that NONE of his other album sound like this - particularly the delivery

    Dude was spitting so confidently

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    genghiskharti

    isolate them who cares every great artist has an album that alienates their audience

    Drake just simply isn't willing to take this risk

    Even tho it wouldn't be a risk

    Like, what is Drake's 808s - the album that forced him to step outside of his comfort zone and push his creativity?

  • Jan 5, 2022

    I'm sure Drake and Co. could definitely put together another 13 track project of amazing records but he just scared for some reason

  • Jan 5, 2022
    Asaprockybraids

    He told us during the Rap Radar interview.

    We'll never get the concise Drake album because he feels obligated to make an album that checks off all the boxes of music that his fans except him to make.

    It's sad that he doesn't make music that he wants to and basically admitted that's the formula he needs his albums to meet because he's a business now. No wonder his last few albums have come out the way they have.

    People call Drake formulaic now and it's hard to disagree even as a fan.

    Yup, I agree

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    DaeHan

    Drake just simply isn't willing to take this risk

    Even tho it wouldn't be a risk

    Like, what is Drake's 808s - the album that forced him to step outside of his comfort zone and push his creativity?

    The closest thing was If you're reading this it's too late and it's one of his best projects.

    I think people are so disappointed in CLB because they really expected an RnB album but we got an album of Kanye disses that no one cares about. It would have been such an amazing rollout to drop the 14 track lover boy RnB project

  • Jan 5, 2022
    Asaprockybraids

    The closest thing was If you're reading this it's too late and it's one of his best projects.

    I think people are so disappointed in CLB because they really expected an RnB album but we got an album of Kanye disses that no one cares about. It would have been such an amazing rollout to drop the 14 track lover boy RnB project

    I don't really think we were expecting an RB album, but rather just an overall good album with a conceise sound.

    Instead, we basically got Scorpion pt.2 - a collection of songs. Not bad songs persay, but just songs if that makes sense

    Like, I LOOOOOOVE Knife Talk, but did that song really belong on this album?

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    FYI NWTS exists and is his most concise album so its not like he hasn't done something like that before

  • Jan 5, 2022

    nah he just hasn't done so in a long time lol

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    mythstar7

    FYI NWTS exists and is his most concise album so its not like he hasn't done something like that before

    NWTS was cute, but come on fam

    That was 2013 and he hasn't really shown any growth since then

    Once again, I LOOOOVE Drake. This is not a hate thread.

    At this point in his career I would just like to see grwoth instead of Girls Want Girls and Way 2 Sexy (even tho those songs slap in real life lol)

  • Jan 5, 2022
    thegreatdivine

    You're comparing Hov in his 50s to Drake in his prime? How many 10 track albums did Hov drop when he was still commercially relevant?

  • Scorpion is concise for a double album. A Side does it's thing and B Side feels complete but different from it. B Side and NWTS are his most concise

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    genghiskharti

    isolate them who cares every great artist has an album that alienates their audience

    He did this with More Life

  • Jan 5, 2022
    mythstar7

    FYI NWTS exists and is his most concise album so its not like he hasn't done something like that before

  • Jan 5, 2022
    We Didnt Like That

    He did this with More Life

    Nah

    More Life was basically an improved VIEWS - which was dope

    But it wasn't a departure from the norm aside from KMT and No Long Talk