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  • Dec 22, 2023
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    Experiment626

    I feel like this convo happens whenever a obscure talent ppl enjoyed for years becomes prevalent

    Alchemist doing the same s*** Alchemist been doing all these years

    no he hasn’t lol

    he even did a tape with Conway and it sounded like he gave him straight up throwaways

  • Dec 22, 2023

    Voir dire trash but Alchemist is a whole goat and a half regardless

  • rustcohlestan

    this is funny cause yall are currently s***ting on @insertcoolnamehere right now for getting old and not f***ing with rage beats

    who’s y’all? I never said that

  • Dec 22, 2023

    Alc’s sample selection and chopping is otherworldly, but some of his drums aren’t up to par. I’m sure he wants to give space for the vocals, but even then the sound selection is often stale.

  • Dec 22, 2023
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    X7JQ9L2MF4A8Z

    no he hasn’t lol

    he even did a tape with Conway and it sounded like he gave him straight up throwaways

    So what you think after all these years he just now switching things up?

    You personally don’t like the beats on the album but they are still very much alchemist

    He just putting himself out there more so naturally there’s more room for criticism but that doesn’t mean he changed much at all even quality wise

    the question is was he ever as amazing as y’all thought he was

  • Dec 22, 2023
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    Experiment626

    So what you think after all these years he just now switching things up?

    You personally don’t like the beats on the album but they are still very much alchemist

    He just putting himself out there more so naturally there’s more room for criticism but that doesn’t mean he changed much at all even quality wise

    the question is was he ever as amazing as y’all thought he was

    The switch up was noticable after Alfredo I'd say. There's way less straight up raw s*** and more dreamy loops with no drums. Which there isn't anything wrong with and yes it's still alc but it's just one style of alc which people kinda get tired of

  • Dec 22, 2023
    Laced

    The switch up was noticable after Alfredo I'd say. There's way less straight up raw s*** and more dreamy loops with no drums. Which there isn't anything wrong with and yes it's still alc but it's just one style of alc which people kinda get tired of

    thats exactly what im saying

    bro went from this

    to that

    it isnt trash but its nowhere near what he was doing before whatsoever

  • Dec 22, 2023
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    I’ll never understand the Alchemist hate. Dude makes slaps and stays out the way. Probably the hardest working producer in the game. What is there to hate on?

  • proper 🔩
    Dec 22, 2023

    we had this thread already and it was the same ppl in this thread saying the same s***

  • Tubig

    If you were in vultures thread the other day you’d have been told he’s better than Kanye all time

    He might be. Def has more classic albums.

  • Dec 22, 2023

    I always thought Alchemist was boring and overrated. Just does the most basic of loops

  • Dec 22, 2023

    around the 2 hour mark

  • Dec 22, 2023

    I think the artists he collabs with are the ones that hold it back.

    Flying High was so dope and Faith is a Rock is my #1 AOTY and it’s kinda clear he was the one in charge of that album

  • Dec 22, 2023

    Great escape was an awesome batch of beats

    I think he cares more about rapping now

  • Dec 22, 2023

    No offense but I don’t give a s*** what Alphonse says about anything

  • Dec 22, 2023

    u using a nigga thats known for hating on things as an example for alc falling off oh man this site is cooked

  • Dec 22, 2023
    THIB

    idk what y’all expected from voir dire but it’s exactly what I wanted

  • Dec 22, 2023

    Real convo about ALC : He's the real goat of this fckn game, period.

  • Dec 22, 2023
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    His current style and output is overhated, sometimes by the same people who will praise a 4 bar loop as long as there is an 808 on it

    I think his vibe and the whole drumless thing has brought some refreshing takes and a new color palette in hip hop, I respect him for kind of pioneering this late in his career in that sense. You kind of have to be in the mood for it and maybe the amount of it is too much for people, I can see how it seems stale to some. But I generally don’t think that’s really fair. He’s on a wave and has done so much quality work in the last few years

    Let’s have a discussion about all the artists and producers who haven’t done s*** lately instead of hating on the ones who put in the work tbh.

  • Dec 22, 2023
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    His chop game is so elite that people think he really just loops s*** up.

  • Dec 22, 2023
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    HOV INNOCENT

    His current style and output is overhated, sometimes by the same people who will praise a 4 bar loop as long as there is an 808 on it

    I think his vibe and the whole drumless thing has brought some refreshing takes and a new color palette in hip hop, I respect him for kind of pioneering this late in his career in that sense. You kind of have to be in the mood for it and maybe the amount of it is too much for people, I can see how it seems stale to some. But I generally don’t think that’s really fair. He’s on a wave and has done so much quality work in the last few years

    Let’s have a discussion about all the artists and producers who haven’t done s*** lately instead of hating on the ones who put in the work tbh.

    Alchemist didn't pioneer the drumless loop.

  • Dec 22, 2023
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    did he keep that same energy for Metro? cus lifeless and robotic is exactly how i feel when i hear a metro beat

  • Dec 22, 2023

    We’ve moved past the need for bald white producers overused by underground rappers

  • Dec 22, 2023
    X7JQ9L2MF4A8Z

    i’ve been saying half of those Alc collab tapes or whatever are vastly overrated on this site and i got crucified for it

    his production is really hit or miss nowadays it seems like

    tbh