Ngl if he drop another certified classic he might be top 3 or even higher, his ceiling is high as s***

i saw fd signifier say something like “yeah kendrick isn’t the best lyricist but he’s the best songwriter in hip hop” when andre or big boi of even mf tyler are right there

also i don’t consider you a songwriter unless you’re actually making beats and composing chord progressions and whatnot. i’m a prince stan yall. so automatically that don’t work.

kendrick is a great artist though. i would call what he does being an “album architect” or an executive producer/creative lead, and as that he’s one of the best to ever do it

Yes. Been the goat. Always will be.

you keep quoting me with tracks i know by heart w no elaboration like that somehow disproves what im saying it don’t. i love all these songs tho

Since when do you have to make beats to be considered a great writer in rap???

Unrelated but are you black?

He does a lot better than Nas. A lot.

That's what I meant when I said the "everything better" statement was a reach

I definitely agree Nas is a better lyricist than Kendrick but that's only one aspect of rapping

In just about every other category I got Kendrick. Rhyme schemes, cadences, delivery, charisma. Dot does a lot of special things that can't just be boiled down to "lyricism"

Imagine saying the nigga who wrote this isnt a great writer

yes nigga 🙄 i literally never said what you just claimed, you’re tying together two things that are unrelated. im giving my thoughts on kendrick’s skillset period. but go off. you givinf champagne papi stan rn with the defensiveness and the aggression brother

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While I'm at it tho, one of em yes

Yes

How am I being aggressive 😂

We cant consider somebody on a coulda woulda

Pac is the most iconic rapper of all time and noone can over take that from him

He will always be a legend but as u said he doesnt have enough material. Plus had too many weed carriers on his albums. He was extremly passionate but was never able to focus on a construction of an album imo

? Thats all i said

are you dumb? i literally never said he wasn’t a great writer. bro you are seriously acting like zack from the six or quadra or one of these other drake guzzlers w your aggression and stanliness rn. it ain’t a good look. i guess this beef got yall on edge or something goin dumb

S***ting on ken pen cuz he not doing lyrical gymnastics is crazy lol

I love lupe too and he is one of the greatest rappers oat but i can never say he is better than ken

kendrick, to me, is basically a more intellectual pac who was able to live out a full career

He did focus on the construction of an album with Me Against The World imo that album is cohesive and doesn’t have a lot of features and is on par with any Dot album to me and many other people

Like idk I genuinely think Pac’s music is just as good as Kendrick’s even without doing a woulda coulda shoulda. I do kinda see where you’re coming from because I had to get more into Pac over time a lot of his stuff had to grow on me but his music all clicked when I listened to Me Against The World for the first time personally

"Not like Us" is enough to put him in the conversation .

Imagine shattering records with a song that you made in a day and a half , calling one of the biggest entertainer in the music industry a sexual predator , and dismantling his whole sound and persona with a history lesson on a DJ Mustard beat .

This is history right here don't get it twisted , y'all better appreciate it because we're never gonna witness something similar ever again

unparalled creative ability, true to his hometown sound, global audience, classic records, creatively ambitious experimental records, hip hop hip hop ass records, classic disses plural...

list goes on

hes def one of the best its never been a doubt, if his late career output is at least a fraction of the quality since GKMC then hes prolly the best overall around rapper of all time

he uplifted the genre, respected those who came before him, and is a natural poet. i still can go back to the exact moment i first listened sing about me when it came out. cant say the same about many other artists. he raw

Bro why are you insulting me? If I misunderstood your point you can just explain that lol I was just tryna have a discussion about music

Idk why you’re taking it so personally lol

Yup

Been the goat