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  • LD

    Hasn't America always used buzzwords to communicate tho?

    Or else conversation isn't interesting enough

    Yeah I think we are all very competent but not exactly intelligent. It takes deeper a***ysis to really level up and I think most people just go with their hearts/gut. I could be talking out of my ass too, though

  • Apr 22
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    LD

    What makes you say that?

    the youth is toast
    growing up with instant gratification and dopamine, mixed with the pandemic = toast

  • dblvsn

    Many of them are scientists, lawyers, doctors etc

    Let's not str8 up lie

    The Boomers are more worried about their property value than anything happening in society being a doctor/lawyer dont mean there all that smart

  • Apr 22
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    blog.prepscholar.com/average-sat-scores-over-time

    If you look at these charts of SAT scores, I’d say test scores are pretty much the same until last year for some reason.

    There are some shifts but they seem to correspond to changes in the SAT.

    If I had to guess what happened last year..unfortunately my guess would be that kids are using ChatGPT for all their homework and aren’t retaining anything :(

  • Apr 22
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    Benjy

    the youth is toast
    growing up with instant gratification and dopamine, mixed with the pandemic = toast

    Instant gratification and dopamine are myths… they ARE toast in the sense that they’re so easy to influence. With dead internet theory and the state of psyops all over socials, they’re cursed with consuming it from birth

  • ask any teacher about declining attention spans and they'll give you this look

  • Apr 22
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    What leads you to believe that? Considering how Covid set back education along with social media hive mind still plaguing the nation idk

    Looks bleak to me

  • OP
    Apr 22
    dblvsn

    Pretty much yea

    Hmmmm

  • plants 🌻
    Apr 22
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    LD

    I'm confused as to why ppl don't trust the youth (Gen Z/Alpha) to put their best foot forward

    They've done nothing to warrant scrutiny lol, boomers were dumb asl too.

    the s*** I read on r/teachers doesnt give me a lot of hope

    feels like the public education system has been effectively sabotaged (speakin on the US) for so many years that kids these days are not getting a proper education. like actual literacy, high schoolers who can't read a regular book, who can't do basic arithmetic. and its not coz they're like bad people, the system just failing in abundance rn.

    at least thats how i see it. my pov doesn't really mean s*** so w/e

  • OP
    Apr 22
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    MR MUCUS

    https://blog.prepscholar.com/average-sat-scores-over-time

    If you look at these charts of SAT scores, I’d say test scores are pretty much the same until last year for some reason.

    There are some shifts but they seem to correspond to changes in the SAT.

    If I had to guess what happened last year..unfortunately my guess would be that kids are using ChatGPT for all their homework and aren’t retaining anything :(

    Probably because SAT/ACT became optional for colleges recently

  • OP
    Apr 22
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    plants

    the s*** I read on r/teachers doesnt give me a lot of hope

    feels like the public education system has been effectively sabotaged (speakin on the US) for so many years that kids these days are not getting a proper education. like actual literacy, high schoolers who can't read a regular book, who can't do basic arithmetic. and its not coz they're like bad people, the system just failing in abundance rn.

    at least thats how i see it. my pov doesn't really mean s*** so w/e

    Why would the US be downgrading in education?

    How is that even possible?

    TikTok gives ppl so much info at their fingertips

  • Apr 22
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    It’s no surprise certain ideologies are pushing to get rid of standardized testing, gpa requirements, SAT, etc

    It’s damage control because most kids are falling further and further behind

  • LD

    Probably because SAT/ACT became optional for colleges recently

    That happened mostly during the pandemic, and those scores didn’t seem to change much.

  • OP
    Apr 22
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    ColeWorldNoSnuggie

    What leads you to believe that? Considering how Covid set back education along with social media hive mind still plaguing the nation idk

    Looks bleak to me

    So we were on an upwards trend before COVID?

  • MR MUCUS

    https://blog.prepscholar.com/average-sat-scores-over-time

    If you look at these charts of SAT scores, I’d say test scores are pretty much the same until last year for some reason.

    There are some shifts but they seem to correspond to changes in the SAT.

    If I had to guess what happened last year..unfortunately my guess would be that kids are using ChatGPT for all their homework and aren’t retaining anything :(

    A lot of young migrants enrolling in school lately ? those are some hard ass score drops off of 1 year

    5600 new students for a few districts in one city for would have to affect the school scores

    chalkbeat.org/colorado/2024/03/22/some-colorado-migrant-students-can-skip-standardized-tests

    As of February, the Denver, Aurora, Cherry Creek, Greeley, Adams 12, Jeffco, and Mapleton districts told Chalkbeat they had enrolled more than 5,600 newcomer students after October count

  • LD

    Standardized testing and GPA provides a barometer for critical thinking, literacy, and maturity?

  • OP
    Apr 22
    ColeWorldNoSnuggie

    It’s no surprise certain ideologies are pushing to get rid of standardized testing, gpa requirements, SAT, etc

    It’s damage control because most kids are falling further and further behind

    U think so?

    Tests and GPA are dumb anyways, they're both rigged asffff

  • Apr 22
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    I think it’s the complete opposite @op

    Theirs a complete crisis with reading and literacy amongst kids and adults in the US

    edtrust.org/the-equity-line/the-literacy-crisis-in-the-u-s-is-deeply-concerning-and-totally-preventable

    And In terms of maturity, let’s just say most people in the US lack critical thinking skills to see beyond their worldview let alone think about complex ideas

  • plants 🌻
    Apr 22
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    LD

    Why would the US be downgrading in education?

    How is that even possible?

    TikTok gives ppl so much info at their fingertips

    You can have some of the greatest education possible in the world in the US you just need MONEY. The extremely wealthy are heavily insulated from what America is like for actual Americans. Public school has been, in my belief, purposefully sabotaged by the government to create a population that is more easily swayed by its own propaganda.

    People are more reactionary than ever, its never been more about looks and aesthetic and image than ever before. Deep pockets and shallow minds in abundance.

    Identity politics have been intentionally weaponized by the government and the ultra wealthy to distract the population from coming together and creating and meaningful change. When your population has lower levels of critical thinking, media literacy, and things like that, they will be easier to distract, divert, and outright control.

    You ask me why the US would be doing this and I ask you why the US would be doing anything else.

  • Apr 22
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    LD

    So we were on an upwards trend before COVID?

    Unfortunately no. I think it was still downward and Covid just made it even worse

    Especially if we compare to other developed nations. Our K-12 education is pretty barebones and trash.

    We have the best universities but we aren’t properly preparing kids to be ready for them.

  • OP
    Apr 22
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    plants

    You can have some of the greatest education possible in the world in the US you just need MONEY. The extremely wealthy are heavily insulated from what America is like for actual Americans. Public school has been, in my belief, purposefully sabotaged by the government to create a population that is more easily swayed by its own propaganda.

    People are more reactionary than ever, its never been more about looks and aesthetic and image than ever before. Deep pockets and shallow minds in abundance.

    Identity politics have been intentionally weaponized by the government and the ultra wealthy to distract the population from coming together and creating and meaningful change. When your population has lower levels of critical thinking, media literacy, and things like that, they will be easier to distract, divert, and outright control.

    You ask me why the US would be doing this and I ask you why the US would be doing anything else.

    So ur saying we just gotta get rich then 😭

  • OP
    Apr 22
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    ColeWorldNoSnuggie

    Unfortunately no. I think it was still downward and Covid just made it even worse

    Especially if we compare to other developed nations. Our K-12 education is pretty barebones and trash.

    We have the best universities but we aren’t properly preparing kids to be ready for them.

    America has the best universities?

    Public university education is drastically different from high school education?

  • plants 🌻
    Apr 22
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    LD

    So ur saying we just gotta get rich then 😭

    Rich as a motherfucker, born with millions type. It's over for us just enjoy the ride.

  • OP
    Apr 22
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    plants

    Rich as a motherfucker, born with millions type. It's over for us just enjoy the ride.

    So you're saying the working class is now fundamentally uneducated?