Sep 17, 2020Where I work we have both a Max unit, a medium security unit and minimum security. Generally if the crime is more severe you'll be in the Maximum. Protective Custody inmates (sexual assault charges, rats) are also held in their own maximum units.
Minimum is moreso car thieves, identity thieves, assaults etc.
- Sep 17, 2020·2 replies
Prbz
I think we're better off not stuffing a bunch of f***ing people into boxes, many of whom have substance abuse and mental illness problems and having ill equipped people who only trained for a few weeks-months look after them. In some cases yeah you're right. We transfer a lot of our extremely mentally ill inmates to psych wards where they can get the help they need.
For the substance abuse guys, jail can be an opportunity to sober up and reflect on what is important in their lives. Some try to turn their lives around, other's can't wait to get out to get high on meth again.
Takes a huge toll working with people we deem the worst in society. I try to treat everyone with respect and as human beings.
Where I work we get a first timers and kids coming out of the youth justice system. I find those are the best to work with because I can relate to them, talk to them about music etc. It helps that I'm not white either, they seem way more receptive to my help as opposed to a white CO's. 90% of our inmates are Native so they have a long standing distrust and resentment to white people as a result of colonization.
- Sep 17, 2020·edited·1 replyGurilla
In some cases yeah you're right. We transfer a lot of our extremely mentally ill inmates to psych wards where they can get the help they need.
For the substance abuse guys, jail can be an opportunity to sober up and reflect on what is important in their lives. Some try to turn their lives around, other's can't wait to get out to get high on meth again.
Takes a huge toll working with people we deem the worst in society. I try to treat everyone with respect and as human beings.
Where I work we get a first timers and kids coming out of the youth justice system. I find those are the best to work with because I can relate to them, talk to them about music etc. It helps that I'm not white either, they seem way more receptive to my help as opposed to a white CO's. 90% of our inmates are Native so they have a long standing distrust and resentment to white people as a result of colonization.
Yeah I know but you also have with initially less severe mental ill in gp where they end up in alterations and then go into "isolation" repeatedly leading into the deterioration of their mental state. It's not just people who fling poop on the walls and flood their cells or talk to voices.
Yeah some people do use jail as a legitimate way to get clean but you're still housing them the mentally ill and people who were hardened (
) by prison culture and more prone to violence. Plus it would better if everyone who has those issues be required to try for sobriety. Also not saying it's an easy job to be a c.o as yall are often underpaid and understaffed, adding rehabilitation reforms would make your jobs easier in the long. And it's not the only reforms needed either (justice reforms, etc.)
Sep 17, 2020PrbzAll of 3 of those do not make up a large portion of the prison population in the US. And pedophiles and rapists do not get a lot of time as it is, so those are the people you would want to rehabilitate the most. Also, most murderers do not have the mindset of serial killers which is just to kill people for pleasure, most of the time it can be linked to s*** like domestic violence, poverty, substance abuse issues, mental illness, etc. I do there agree that are people that "can't" be rehabilitated with current means, but it is greatly exacerbated the amount to which how many people are like that due to how we conditioned to think about crime. And with those people we will have to keep trying in order to figure out a way and a method that works because it literally makes no sense to continue to push for an archaic system that has proven time again and again it has failed.
Yeah i agree the system is f***ed cause a d*** dealer gets more time than a pedo
Sep 17, 2020·1 reply
Synopsisobviously people have to be reformed and undergo the proper therapy and s*** before being released
There was a man who was in jail for killing multiple people. He learned to read in jail and became a very popular writer. Because of this and his good behavior he was released. That man then killed at least 3 other people despite having fortune and fame.
Nobody can tell for certain when a killer is rehabilitated. Your ideologies are a fantasy dude.
- OPSep 17, 2020TIIMMY BURNER
There was a man who was in jail for killing multiple people. He learned to read in jail and became a very popular writer. Because of this and his good behavior he was released. That man then killed at least 3 other people despite having fortune and fame.
Nobody can tell for certain when a killer is rehabilitated. Your ideologies are a fantasy dude.
None of this constitutes an argument
- OPSep 17, 2020
OP and title updated
- OPSep 17, 2020
NozukaMonths later, still stupid
No. You are
- OPSep 17, 2020·1 reply
Halloween GangIf there’s no real deterrent for abhorrent then society would turn to s***.
I agree with you in the sense that perhaps some lower-level or non-violent criminals should try to rehabilitated instead of locking them up instantly.
Dont say you agree with me when.you dont
Sep 17, 2020·1 replySo I'm curious, if not rehab centers what would you do with repeat offenders or criminals that commit heinous acts and have no remorse? How would we go about rehabilitating them?
- OPSep 17, 2020·2 repliesGangstalicious
So I'm curious, if not rehab centers what would you do with repeat offenders or criminals that commit heinous acts and have no remorse? How would we go about rehabilitating them?
We get rid of the conditions that lead to crimes and take solely community centered approaches and transformative/restorative justice initiatives
- Sep 17, 2020·2 replies
Reinstate colosseums & gladiator matches.
- Sep 17, 2020·1 replyGurilla
In some cases yeah you're right. We transfer a lot of our extremely mentally ill inmates to psych wards where they can get the help they need.
For the substance abuse guys, jail can be an opportunity to sober up and reflect on what is important in their lives. Some try to turn their lives around, other's can't wait to get out to get high on meth again.
Takes a huge toll working with people we deem the worst in society. I try to treat everyone with respect and as human beings.
Where I work we get a first timers and kids coming out of the youth justice system. I find those are the best to work with because I can relate to them, talk to them about music etc. It helps that I'm not white either, they seem way more receptive to my help as opposed to a white CO's. 90% of our inmates are Native so they have a long standing distrust and resentment to white people as a result of colonization.
You in Canada?
plants 🌻Sep 17, 2020Every murderer gets 500ug in a 20 sq km nature preserve (with no predators) and after 24hrs if they come out the other end repentant then we know we can work with them but if they come out all cracked and psychotic well then....shit happens I guess.
Sep 17, 2020ALPHABEARReinstate colosseums & gladiator matches.
wolves 🐺Sep 17, 2020ALPHABEARReinstate colosseums & gladiator matches.
- Sep 17, 2020Prbz
Yeah I know but you also have with initially less severe mental ill in gp where they end up in alterations and then go into "isolation" repeatedly leading into the deterioration of their mental state. It's not just people who fling poop on the walls and flood their cells or talk to voices.
Yeah some people do use jail as a legitimate way to get clean but you're still housing them the mentally ill and people who were hardened (
) by prison culture and more prone to violence. Plus it would better if everyone who has those issues be required to try for sobriety. Also not saying it's an easy job to be a c.o as yall are often underpaid and understaffed, adding rehabilitation reforms would make your jobs easier in the long. And it's not the only reforms needed either (justice reforms, etc.)
Bruh I've had inmates do all of that. Smear s*** everywhere, eat their own flesh. Even got assaulted a few months back by a guy who was hearing voices and thought I was talking s*** to him.
We get paid well in Canada though, 35$/hr.
- Sep 17, 2020·1 replyGordon Elliot Show
You in Canada?
Yes.
- Sep 17, 2020
abolish prisons and do battle royale matches
Sep 17, 2020·1 replyAre there any good books to read on this topic?
- Sep 17, 2020·1 replyGurilla
Yes.
I was up there for awhile. It's really unbelievable how f***ed over NA are. It's somewhat known but doesn't get the attention it deserves here in the states. Have to be the worst treatment a group of people have ever gotten in human history and still suffering to this day.
- Sep 17, 2020·1 replySynopsis
We get rid of the conditions that lead to crimes and take solely community centered approaches and transformative/restorative justice initiatives
What initiatives exactly? Also getting rid of conditions that lead to crime would be a monumental change and take a good amount of time, what would we do with criminals in the meantime to continue to violate the law? Also what if getting rid of those conditions becomes impossible and crime still happens?
What exactly are conditions that lead to crime also? Generally poverty or income disparity is the answer you'll get but what else? - OPSep 17, 2020·1 replyOsama bin Harden
Are there any good books to read on this topic?
Yes
bigmancam 👨🌾Sep 17, 2020SynopsisYes
- OPSep 17, 2020·1 replyGangstalicious
What initiatives exactly? Also getting rid of conditions that lead to crime would be a monumental change and take a good amount of time, what would we do with criminals in the meantime to continue to violate the law? Also what if getting rid of those conditions becomes impossible and crime still happens?
What exactly are conditions that lead to crime also? Generally poverty or income disparity is the answer you'll get but what else?Initiatives as in enacting restorative justice. And poverty is the biggest one