Nov 23, 2019·edited
THANOS"you could put the s***tiest rapper on something so perfect (a Kanye beat for example) and it would make him look like a king."
so then why does Kanye sound so s*** on Ye and JIK - albums full of his own production?
because those aren’t kanye beats its ronny j and timbaland clown asses making all the beats
Nov 23, 2019You not feelin’me? Fine.
It costs you nothing. Pay me no mind.- Hov
Nov 23, 2019lock thread this is pure delusion. Jay was a legend before ye and had amazing beats.plus its not jay beats that people thirst for
Nov 23, 2019·1 reply
deepsleepyea lets act like Jay doesn't have multiple classic albums even before kanye came along my man
try again
He has one classic before Kanye
- Nov 23, 2019BIGSTEPPERDISNEY
Only rapper to have a classic album in 3 separate decades: ‘90s, ‘00s, and ‘10s. This is HOV
This is facts though
Nov 23, 2019
m02stpMods don’t even think about moving, this is directly tied in with Kanye.
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I was watching an interview with stand up comedian Bill Burr about his role in the show Breaking Bad. When he was praised by the audience for his performance (especially for having no previous acting credits), he humbly explained that you could literally put ANYONE in a show with that perfect of a script and it would make them look good. The show itself was so good that it made inexperienced actors look like geniuses.
I question whether or not Jay Z would be half the rap legend he is today if it weren’t for Kanye’s beats. Similar to Burr, you could put the s***tiest rapper on something so perfect (a Kanye beat for example) and it would make him look like a king.
Conversely, put any Jay Z verse on, say, a very basic, flat, underground hip hop beat and it just wouldn’t hit the same.
What do you guys think? We all know Kanye carried Jay Z through the latter part of his career, but exactly how much? What would Jay’s rap career looked like if Kanye never existed?
Sorry op. Not even kanye could save this group.
Jay is overrated tho.
Nov 23, 2019Nas is still considered a top 5 MC oat & rhymed over s*** production.
So I think Jay would've managed.
But Ye did bring him through the stratosphere with his beats.
Nov 23, 2019Ngl Jay got great flow and as a rapper he’s phenomenal
The thing that probably op and I Feel deep down is RAPPING well in itself isn’t enough to warrant being compared to artists who have more interesting layer themes and concepts in their music.
Others just appreciate rapping way more
- OPNov 23, 2019
Okay the rational users are finally starting to stroll on into the thread.
Keep comin’ boys.
- Nov 23, 2019·1 reply
Shut the f*** up
- Nov 23, 2019THANOS
"you could put the s***tiest rapper on something so perfect (a Kanye beat for example) and it would make him look like a king."
so then why does Kanye sound so s*** on Ye and JIK - albums full of his own production?
- Nov 23, 2019TheZucker
He has one classic before Kanye
Vol 3 isnt a classic? LMAOOO
- Nov 23, 2019·1 reply
Hov is the best MC of all time and you’re an idiot if you think otherwise
- OPNov 23, 2019·1 replyNozuka
Hov is the best MC of all time and you’re an idiot if you think otherwise
Lol you actually think this?
Do you know nothing about the roots of hip hop?
- OPNov 23, 2019·1 replymath fifty
Shut the f*** up
The kid quoted right here is still upset from when I made a fool of him a few weeks ago. Please excuse his brashness. He’s alright.
That’s also him in his avi, looking sad.
- Nov 23, 2019·1 replym02stp
Lol you actually think this?
Do you know nothing about the roots of hip hop?
Jay the most consistent and is still making classics 20+ years later
No rapper has done what he’s done
- OPNov 23, 2019Nozuka
Jay the most consistent and is still making classics 20+ years later
No rapper has done what he’s done
Half of his albums are not “classics” what are you on about.
Most of the ones that ARE classics have HUGE assists (ie Kanye).
And most of the consistent artists I know don’t have a huge stain mike MCHG on their record lol.
The guy is mid. Get over it. And if we’re talking about lyricism, you really can’t name a better MC?
- Nov 23, 2019·1 reply
c***
jay z is a goat
interchangeable top 4 is kanye, wayne, jay z, drake 
Nov 23, 2019stop you're making ye stans look bad
- Nov 23, 2019·1 reply
If we're talking from a pure technical standpoint.
Andre, DOOM, & Black Thought >>>>> Jay
But I Jay's the undeniable GOAT when it comes to being an Icon in the genre.
All around, Jay as a brand, MC, Businessman, etc is untouchable.
- Nov 23, 2019
greatest rapper of all time
- OPNov 23, 2019Murder Czn
If we're talking from a pure technical standpoint.
Andre, DOOM, & Black Thought >>>>> Jay
But I Jay's the undeniable GOAT when it comes to being an Icon in the genre.
All around, Jay as a brand, MC, Businessman, etc is untouchable.
I completely agree with your last statement there. Was just talking about rapping exclusively.
- OPNov 23, 2019·1 replydoot doot
c***
jay z is a goat
interchangeable top 4 is kanye, wayne, jay z, drakeImagine being this basic everyone.
Nov 23, 2019·1 reply
Nov 23, 2019this is why nobody likes kanye stans